Heathers Bylines

A place where members can debate rumors and claims of conspiracies, cover-ups and secret government activities.
Kolya
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Post by Kolya »

Rumours are just that. Rumours.

You want to sit in on an investigation? If you can't find anyone Stateside, get your passport in order. You are invited.
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Post by Natasha »

I used to work in the theoretical end of the spectrum. I know the feeling.

When I got into field operations, I quickly understood the need to be fast and lethal. Many of these things simply do not understand humanity, or simply do not care. More often than not, which many of us find regrettable, killing it is the only option.

Sure you can try to capture a werewolf, but were has that gotten anyone but dead themselfs?
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Post by concrete_Angel »

Sounds pretty good so far. Not too patronizing, at least. :wink:
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Post by Kolya »

Yea but totally misses the mark.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

I'm not cut out for the theoretical end of the spectrum and I think everyone here knows it.


I'm the fire department.
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Post by Natasha »

Sounds like she's saying you're the arson.
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Post by Kolya »

Natasha wrote:When I got into field operations, I quickly understood the need to be fast and lethal. Many of these things simply do not understand humanity, or simply do not care. More often than not, which many of us find regrettable, killing it is the only option.
I'd say this hits the nail on the head.
Although I would probably say regrettable for different reasons.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Natasha wrote:Sounds like she's saying you're the arson.


Fire is only used when and where appropriate.
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Post by Michael T »

I might be convinced to give a small demo of magic, under the set up that Ms. Dawes specifies. I have done so once already and left the scientist involved pouring over data and theories.

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Post by Kolya »

And invited to Russia.
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We'll be in touch later this evening - morning for you, I guess; see if we can arrange something.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

How come nobody ever wants to visit Russia in the winter? Really, isn't that the best time to go for that authentic Russian experience?
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Post by Kolya »

Ron Caliburn wrote:How come nobody ever wants to visit Russia in the winter? Really, isn't that the best time to go for that authentic Russian experience?
Yes it is.

It's not as cold as people think. ALthough -71.2° C (that's about -96° F) has been recorded in Oymyakon out in Siberia.
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Post by Willie Long »

Heather Dawes wrote:People really worried about what was going on, not with the ghosts, but with the people running the Society. I was bombarded with rumors of the Society doing more then trying to educate people about the supernatural.


Your information is in error, Ms. Dawes. Mr. Mach's goals are strictly educational in nature. The Lazlo Society founded this website as a public forum, where visitors can discuss "supernatural" topics and experiences.

Perhaps your sources were unaware of the difference between Society employees (like Pendragon and me) and posters?
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Post by Willie Long »

The Society teaches people about the paranormal and how to protect themselves from it. (I'm not one of those paranormal experts, though. I perform other duties for the agency.)

What we don't do is encourage the masses to take drastic steps. You know as well as I how dangerous that would be: impressionable fools or the mentally ill running around trying to stake the neighbor they're convinced is a vampire.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

I encourage people to arm and prepare to protect themselves and I help any who are willing to do just that.

The offense agaisnt these monsters needs to be undertaken by our government, they are the only ones with the resources to actually succeede.

There are a lot of theories as to why they don't step up and protect us, as to why they continue to encourage disbeleif in things that stalk the streets and alleys.

Until the government does what it needs to do, I go out there and do what I can.
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Post by Kolya »

I don't think anyone's teaching the masses.

I don't think that's really possible.

And I'm not convinced that it's actually a good idea.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

There are 6.5 billion of us against thousnds of them. If we all knew what was going on and were ready to stand up to them, the beasts and creatures wouldn't stand a chance.
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Post by Kolya »

I know. I've gone over this before.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

And we will probably go through it again.

I admit the transition from ignorance to useful knowledge will be rough and there will be some people who just don't get it, but the long term rwards for such a transition will more than make up for it.
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Post by Shadowstalker »

I would like to think you are right Ron, but I have seen more than a few people, not deal with the idea that monsters, demons, and Magic are real, very well. Some have in fact reacted very badly, to the point they try to go after anything, or anyone they start to think is strange or off.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Which just shows us we need to make this happen sooner rather than later. So we don't have a bunch of people burning each other at the stake when we need them to be hunting demons.
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Post by Kolya »

Shady brings up a valid problem with educating the masses.

I always favoured the progressive approach where you introduce a small select few to the fold.

Otherwise you run the risk of shithead con artists and overzealous wannabes; both of which do far more harm than good to our situation.
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Post by GhostSpider »

I believe that educating the masses is just stupid. Like the Masses.

No one wants to know about the supernatural. In fact we go to great lengths to ignore it. Honestly, it would do more harm than good to let the world know that the supernatural is real.

Next thing you know, the Inquisition would return, so would witch-hunts, and every nut out there gunning down their neighbor just because they like to go out at night. And what about those of us with psychic or magical abilities. How long will it be before we are singled out as being "like" the enemy.

No, the world can never know. It can't handle it, not anymore.
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Post by Kolya »

Not even then.
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That’s a sad outlook, Konrad . . .

Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

That’s a sad outlook, Konrad. But it does bring up interesting dilemmas and questions.

Would the blood of the innocent be upon our hands because we could have warned them of the danger posed and did not? We run the risk of the scammers and the inquisition and so forth by declaring it, but we also miss the opportunity of teaching potential hunters like Ron and others who would believe us.

Who are we to take away the chance of defending themselves knowledgeably simply because we don’t think they’re up to snuff?
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Post by Kolya »

There is no easy answer. There certainly is no pretty answer.

Save the ones you can, the best you can.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

GhostSpider wrote:Next thing you know, the Inquisition would return, so would witch-hunts, and every nut out there gunning down their neighbor just because


Happens allready . . . might as well get some of that energy focused in a useful direction.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Kolya wrote:There is no easy answer. There certainly is no pretty answer.

Save the ones you can, the best you can.


Teaching them how to save themselves and getitng the right forces in charge of making them not have to soudns good to me.
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Post by Kolya »

I've taught my share of newbies.
Some are cut out for this. Most arent.
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