Flight 93
Flight 93
Came across this http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/shanksville.htm and thought I would post it to get everyone's opinion on it. It points out some interesting inconsistencies in the stories the government agencies gave us.
“Whoever starts out toward the unknown must consent to venture alone.” - Andre Gide
I didn't read that story; I will, later... I do know that on that day, there were news reports of witnesses who saw an American fighter following the flight, of "flashes of light" that "flew from the fighter to the jetliner", and then the plane crashed... Sounds to me like it was shot down.
Only less than half an hour after those reports started getting aired, the news media suddenly stopped airing them, and then they started airing these new stories that everyone knows about.
Funny enough, every time I mention remembering that, people start remembering that...
Only less than half an hour after those reports started getting aired, the news media suddenly stopped airing them, and then they started airing these new stories that everyone knows about.
Funny enough, every time I mention remembering that, people start remembering that...
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It also mentions that the final call from the airplane went to a 911 center. It stated that there was an explosion on the plane. The FBI more or less forbid the 911 operator from speaking with the media, and the story disappeared.
“Whoever starts out toward the unknown must consent to venture alone.” - Andre Gide
The story is theory, hard to substantiate theory at best. It goes along the same vein that the government planned and executed 9/11 itself to justify going to war with Iraq, or whatever the fear/hate mongers of this country are trying to push now.
Makes me sick that this is the best way we can remember flight 93, another scape goat to put the government down. Haven't those people suffered enough already?
Makes me sick that this is the best way we can remember flight 93, another scape goat to put the government down. Haven't those people suffered enough already?
If it's true that the government even just knew about 9/11 and decided to turn it into another Pearl Harbor, then the fact that they're suffering at all was the government's fault, and justice should be doled out.
If it's true that the government helped orchestrate it, then Bush is as bad as Hussein, and he, Cheney, and all their cronies need to be tried, convicted, and executed for high treason against the nation.
Note, I say *if*. I'm not saying we should all go out and start a lynch mob... I'm saying people should take this more seriously, and start standing up against the news media to get the full truth.
"Haven't those people suffered enough already?" It dishonors the memory of those who were killed that day to allow their murderers to run free...and no matter whether it was the government or not, so far as I see it, we have yet to serve justice. We stopped going after Al Qaeda to chase after Hussein. Tell me that isn't "Wag the Dog" all over again.
Besides, it was the government, "Homeland Security", the "War on Terror", and the "Patriot Act" that started people down paths of fear of terrorism and general hatred of Muslims in general...so we "fear/hate mongers" aren't really the ones "mongering" fear and hate.
If it's true that the government helped orchestrate it, then Bush is as bad as Hussein, and he, Cheney, and all their cronies need to be tried, convicted, and executed for high treason against the nation.
Note, I say *if*. I'm not saying we should all go out and start a lynch mob... I'm saying people should take this more seriously, and start standing up against the news media to get the full truth.
"Haven't those people suffered enough already?" It dishonors the memory of those who were killed that day to allow their murderers to run free...and no matter whether it was the government or not, so far as I see it, we have yet to serve justice. We stopped going after Al Qaeda to chase after Hussein. Tell me that isn't "Wag the Dog" all over again.
Besides, it was the government, "Homeland Security", the "War on Terror", and the "Patriot Act" that started people down paths of fear of terrorism and general hatred of Muslims in general...so we "fear/hate mongers" aren't really the ones "mongering" fear and hate.
I am not A bitch...I am THE bitch. And to you, I'm MS Bitch.
What would be more horrifying, that terrorists killed the people on flight 93 or that their own government did?
When my government starts considering it's own citizens as acceptable losses is it really a government of the people, by the people, and for the people anymore?
When my government starts considering it's own citizens as acceptable losses is it really a government of the people, by the people, and for the people anymore?
“Whoever starts out toward the unknown must consent to venture alone.” - Andre Gide
Since things happened as they did, we do not have enough info to either complete the puzzle or judge the decision. What if the plane flew into a high rise apartment building, the White House, ... ? Either way, innocent people are going to die.
The decision would not have been made lightly - or easily. Especially if you pile on the stress of simply not knowing what is happening. Is it a full-scale invasion or limited to 2 or 3 planes? And how can you be sure you know?
9/11 likely caught the administration with their pants down and without a strategy. Although there is almost always a case for any point of view, the administration was pushing National Missile Defense and smart sanctions on Iraq, and pushing hard - too hard for many to swallow it was just biding its time until al Qaida hijacked some planes and started flying them into American buildings to have an excuse to invade Iraq - those dots just do not connect.
If it wanted to invade Iraq, why allow forces to get bogged down in Afghanistan, which the British and Russians know very well, cannot be easily or quickly subdued and pacified? Just bring up the matter of non-compliance with the Desert Storm cease fire. Far more direct.
The decision would not have been made lightly - or easily. Especially if you pile on the stress of simply not knowing what is happening. Is it a full-scale invasion or limited to 2 or 3 planes? And how can you be sure you know?
9/11 likely caught the administration with their pants down and without a strategy. Although there is almost always a case for any point of view, the administration was pushing National Missile Defense and smart sanctions on Iraq, and pushing hard - too hard for many to swallow it was just biding its time until al Qaida hijacked some planes and started flying them into American buildings to have an excuse to invade Iraq - those dots just do not connect.
If it wanted to invade Iraq, why allow forces to get bogged down in Afghanistan, which the British and Russians know very well, cannot be easily or quickly subdued and pacified? Just bring up the matter of non-compliance with the Desert Storm cease fire. Far more direct.
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