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http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/s ... 4280.shtml


HOG KONG: 'HE WAS A BEAST'


Bigger than 'Hogzilla,' and easier to verify, meet...


By JOE JULAVITS, The Times-Union


First there was Hogzilla, the legendary South Georgia wild boar of beastly proportions and questionable origins. Now, from the rural Florida community of Okahumpka comes another monster hog without a catchy name but with a credible story.


Actually, depending on the source of the e-mails, there are several not-so-credible stories attached to the estimated 1,140-pound wild hog killed this past August by Larry Earley at his 22-acre farm near Leesburg. Earley's hog, which went relatively unpublicized for months, has recently taken on a wildly embellished life of its own on the Internet.

One version -- all the e-mailed stories include photos -- has Earley shooting the hog in Texas. Another has Earley firing two shots from a handgun at the charging animal, and, later, donating the meat to feed the homeless in Orlando.

"I was laughing when I saw that," said the 39-year-old Earley, who works as a fireman in Orlando. "There are two or three versions from Texas. One of them renames me. Another keeps my name but changes the location to outside of Houston.

"I have no idea where the stories came from."

According to Earley, here's what really happened.

At around 4 p.m. on Aug. 27, Earley went to check on one of his Labrador retrievers that had gone for a swim in the pond on his property. Earley was concerned because a 9-foot alligator frequents the pond.

"I was standing on the dock and saw the butt of the hog," he said. "At first I thought it was a steer that had gotten through the fence. Then I saw it from the side and saw an 8-inch tusk."

A longtime hog hunter, Earley dashed back to the house and holstered his .44 magnum Smith & Wesson handgun. It's the gun he prefers for hog-hunting because it's easily carried when pursuing a hog through thick cover.

When Earley returned, the huge hog had moved and was rooting along the edge of the pond.

Making a half-circle to gain a sidelong shot, Earley crept to within 10 yards of the animal and fired one round.

"He grunted real hard and turned and started coming at me," Earley recalled. "I backed up and tried to keep the crosshairs on him, but he made about three jumps and fell over sideways about 10 feet from me.

"I didn't realize he was that big or I would have gotten a different gun."

Earley, whose previous biggest hog had weighed 230 pounds, had no clue what this one weighed. He figured maybe 400, 500 pounds. A 300-pound wild hog is considered a giant. A 400-pounder's a nightmare.

Having no suitable scale available, Earley got help loading the hog onto a flatbed trailer used for hauling cars. He then drove up Interstate 75 -- his cargo drawing stares from other motorists -- to Suwannee River Ranch near Branford in Suwannee County. The ranch is a hunting preserve owned by John Kruzeski, a boyhood friend of Earley's, and it has a 500-pound game scale.

Kruzeski did a double-take when he saw Earley's hog, which easily outmatched the measly 500-pound scale.

"He said, 'Man, that thing weighs 1,000 pounds,'" Earley said.

Robert Bradow, who owns Smokin' Oak Sausage Co. in Branford and processes meat for Suwannee River Ranch and other area hunting preserves, witnessed Earley's hog before he processed it. He was stunned by its size.

"That thing was unbelievably huge, the biggest hog I've ever seen," Bradow said. "We've processed a bunch of hogs, and probably 450 pounds is the biggest we've ever seen."

Using a meat-processing formula, Bradow estimated the hog to weigh between 1,100 and 1,200 pounds.

"There was over 300 pounds of boneless meat," he said. "We have a rule of thumb, the thirds rule -- one-third for the head and hide, one-third for the internal viscera, one-third for the carcass.

"My math tells me you're looking at 1,140 pounds, almost 1,200 pounds. He was a beast."

The hog's head and hide alone weighed 284 pounds. Measured from the gum line, one tusk was 8 1/4 inches long; the other was broken off. The hog's neck was 42 inches around. Earley is having the head mounted.

So how does a wild hog grow that large? It's likely Earley's hog had some domestic blood in him. Also, Earley believes the hog he shot had fattened up on salt licks at a neighboring ranch.

"My neighbor had complained about his mineral blocks disappearing," Earley said. "He had asked me four years ago if I'd seen a great big gray boar."

"He definitely had some domestic in him, but he was a genuine wild hog," Bradow said. "That hog had almost no fat on him, which tells me he had a lot of wild in him."

Comparisons of Earley's hog to the much-publicized Hogzilla are unavoidable. Hogzilla was killed last June at River Oak Plantation in Alapaha, Ga., by an employee of the hunting preserve. The hog reportedly weighed 1,000 pounds, measured 12 feet long and sported 9-inch tusks.

Other than a widely circulated picture, there is no documentation of Hogzilla. According to the property owners, the animal was buried on the plantation because it wouldn't fit in one piece in a freezer, and the meat was unsuitable for consumption.

Forensic scientists from the National Geographic Channel have unearthed Hogzilla and will report their findings in a show to be aired later this year, according to The Associated Press.

Earley, whose own hog is the subject of debate in e-mail exchanges, is skeptical.

"That seems odd to me, to shoot something like that and bury it real fast," he said.

Earley's freezer is still full of sausage, and he has given much of it away to friends. None to the homeless, although that detail made for a good Internet story.

Although he doesn't seem the type to relish attention, Earley has become something of a celebrity. He has been interviewed by newspapers, radio stations and The Farmer's Almanac.

Earley and his 10-year-old daughter took the photos that have shown up in e-mails, but they have no idea where the accompanying stories originated.

"There were only a couple of people I sent pictures to," Earley said. "I have some people I know who might have written [the stories], but nobody's fessed up yet.

"It's pretty amazing how far around this has gotten. I don't mind. I love talking about hunting."


Now I could see D-Bunk disproving Hogzilla, but this mosnter is confirmed and verified. Photographs, carcass, measurments, everything.

If things as big as this could go undetected in a place like Georgia, imagine what could be hiding in real wilderness areas. Bigfoot, Molke-Membe, maybe even some surviving dinosaurs. It's all possible.
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Post by Debunker »

Big deal, mutations and genetic abnormalities and freaks are unfortunatly but they do happen. But all the elephant man's and the Hunckbacks of Notre Dame in our world are not vampire and werewolves people.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

I don't think I mentioend Werewolves or Vampires. I reffered to a bunch of cryptids that I'm sure you don't beleive in either.
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On the contrary Ron, I have a very high amount of respect for "Cryptids". Contrary to what seems to be a popular belief on this forum, I am a very reasonable man. I understand very well there are literally 100's and possibly thousands of species that as of yet have not been discovered. But they are out there and one day will be discovered and it will be the "Cryptids" who will spearhead their documentation and details. As a matter of fact, in many of my expeditions I have employed one or two on a regular basis, and I have provided them with the means to find several new varieties of birds, arachnids, and we discovered a new fern in tropical forests of Vietnam that may hold holistic value as a cancer-fighting agent.

Let me put it this way, for all expeditions where I’ve employed entire teams of Parapsychologists, occultists, so called "Demon Hunters" and the like, its been the individual cryptozoologists that have earned their pay. My before mentioned vampire and werewolves quip was a hasty statement, but I assumed this post would lead up to that, so I thought I'd nip it in the bud early.

To your credit Ron I will add that it's entirely possible that a creatures like big foot, (yeti, sasquatch, wendingo or whatever you prefer to call it) could exist. I’ve had many a discussion on the subject with a friend of the family, who happens to be a "crypto", and the theories of big foot are sound. I do have an open mind when there is a reason to, and the possibility of big foot intrigues me to no end. But have you ever sat and thought about what would happen if (and when) one is ever actually captured and studied? The mystery would be gone my friend. Within a matter of months the creature will be documented and labeled, the primate family tree would have a new branch added to it and that’s it.

It’s depressing when you think about it. All these mystery animals, minerals and vegetables that are discovered are exciting for about 15 minutes, and then once their magic and mystery are gone, our parasitic desires for discovery flare up again and we go in search for the next 15 minute distraction.

But while I give credit to the theories of big foot as a missing link in human history, I cannot and will not concede to the idea that werewolves, vampires and other obviously “supernatural” folklore can or ever had existed. I follow the beliefs of the psychological community in that these monsters were created back then as horror stories and ways to warn and teach others about the evil and consequences of our actions, while today they live on as romanticized relics because they can’t be discovered, and therefore the excitement and mystery of them will always be there. Its the psychological answer to our need for a sense of wonder (and fear) in a world where hard fact has taken over the mysteries (the majorities anyway, with more answers coming all the time) and our primal needs to beware the unknown have not yet been evolved out of our inner beings. Science has simply out paced our evolution.
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Post by Brother Hotep »

what I want to know is why are we Exterminating Giant hogs?

I think it's better to let them run free, to better hunt the humans out!.
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