Classes in Satanism!?!?!

Tabloid Hound · Post by **Tabloid Hound** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:43 am

whiff whiff... I smell trouble with this one gang. Yes, that is definitely the odor of trouble brewing.

Vatican university debuts classes on Satanism
Clergy to study 'black magic and exorcism' to combat devil worship

ROME - Worried about the lure of the devil, a Vatican-linked university on Thursday debuted its latest course offering: a class on Satanism, black magic and exorcism.
The class for clergy and seminarians at Rome’s Pontifical Academy “Regina Apostolorum” has arisen from alarm about Satanic practices among young people, especially in Italy.

In one case in Italy in January, eight people believed to belong to a Satanic sect were ordered to stand trial for their alleged role in three ritual killings.
One of the victims was a 19-year-old girl stabbed to death in 1998. She may have been targeted because her killers believed she was a personification of the Virgin Mary, prosecutors allege. The suspects belonged to a heavy metal band called “Beasts of Satan.”

The Vatican is also concerned about a growing number of young people who develop personal forms of Satanism, outside the sects that are closely monitored by police. They often learn about the devil through the Internet.
“It’s a more spontaneous and hidden phenomenon, a problem of loneliness and isolation, a problem of emptiness, that is fulfilled by the values of Satanism,” said one of the teachers, Carlo Climati, a specialist on youth culture and Satanism.

Legionaries of Christ
Climati said concerned parents had been asking for a special course for priests.
The pontifical academy is run by the Legionaries of Christ, a conservative order, and teachers for the class include exorcists and psychiatrists.
In 1999, the Vatican issued its first new guidelines since 1614 for driving out devils, offering cautions to exorcists about taking psychiatric problems into account.

The updated exorcism rite, first issued in Latin and contained in a red, leather-bound book, was a reflection of Pope John Paul II’s efforts to convince the skeptical that the devil is very much in the world. At the time, he gave a series of homilies denouncing the devil as a “cosmic liar and murderer.”

Among the widely accepted signs of possession by the devil are speaking in unknown tongues and demonstrating physical force beyond one’s natural capacity.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:24 pm

A thought his holiness realyl didn't pay attention to the real world.

It's nice that the Vatican is stepping up its efforts in this field, my problem is I think their anti-demon and anti-devil forces will be more morality police than anything worthwhile.

NicksMind · Post by **NicksMind** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:47 pm

I personally dont believe in the devil or god but I believe religion is a good thing it gives people hope and rules to live by, just dont take it to far.

Lightning Plant · Post by **Lightning Plant** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:29 am

NicksMind wrote:I personally dont believe in the devil or god but I believe religion is a good thing it gives people hope and rules to live by, just dont take it to far.

Hmm... my father says the same thing. I've got a feeling that he might be a nega, too. It would help explain all of those nasty headaches I get when he's around.

NicksMind · Post by **NicksMind** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:11 pm

excuse me what did you just call me? a Nega? Is that some term you use for a person who knows and understands the truth? Just because you enjoy living in your life of delusions and hoaxes doesnt mean you have to start name calling

Debunker · Post by **Debunker** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:37 pm

excuse me what did you just call me? a Nega? Is that some term you use for a person who knows and understands the truth?

If that's what you "delusionals" reffer to people like Nicksmind and myself, then I stand proudly with the title of "Nega". In fact I am the hampion of the nega, just refer to me as "Negatron, king of the Nega's". We Nega's stand tall with the truth as our backbone.

Lightning Plant · Post by **Lightning Plant** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:00 pm

NicksMind wrote:excuse me what did you just call me? a Nega? Is that some term you use for a person who knows and understands the truth? Just because you enjoy living in your life of delusions and hoaxes doesnt mean you have to start name calling

Nega is short for Nega-Psychic, some one who acts like a supernatural disruptor. That's why you never see ghosts, or get haunted, and why nothing paranormal ever works when you're around. Have you ever wondered why, if "none of this is real," you keep being drawn to it?

Debunker · Post by **Debunker** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:59 pm

Nega is short for Nega-Psychic, some one who acts like a supernatural disruptor. That's why you never see ghosts, or get haunted, and why nothing paranormal ever works when you're around.

That is the lament excuse Ive ever heard! BAR NONE! For all the freakin excuses I've ever heard, you say I'm disrupting the supernatural and that why I dont see things that you do?!?!?! My lord man! I dont see things the way you do because I'm mentally sound! I'm firmly anchored to the foundation of science, I dont see anything becuase they dont exist! I thank you for the amusing excuse though, laughter is gold. :lol:

PSC27 · Post by **PSC27** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:53 pm

Well, it's like this...they, the vatican, has the largest occult liberary, so...Hey! I think that it's about bloody time the blokes put it to some good use!

PSC27 · Post by **PSC27** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:16 pm

As for the two negas, all I have to say is "Hail Negatron." :lol:

Give up trying to convense them. And actually I agree with you, religion shouldn't be taken too far. I mean, take myself for example, I believe in Heka, Auset, Ra, and Djehuti amoung others. I do try to do what's right with my knowledge and powers. And look at were it's gotten me. Stuck at some bloody airport in TX waiting for our ride. We've been waiting for 2 hours.

Some people don't exactly understand me either, so don't feel too bad chaps.

NicksMind · Post by **NicksMind** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:36 pm

Im with debunker on this one, If I was a Supernatural disruptor I would think I would have hordes of demons after me so they didnt have to worry about me. Conclusion: DEMONS ARE NOT REAL!!!!

PSC27 · Post by **PSC27** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:44 pm

NicksMind wrote:Im with debunker on this one, If I was a Supernatural disruptor I would think I would have hordes of demons after me so they didnt have to worry about me. Conclusion: DEMONS ARE NOT REAL!!!!

There is just one way to prove it...sin a lot and shoot yourself. That's the only way to convense them.

PSC27 · Post by **PSC27** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:13 pm

I must apoligise for my last statement. I feel the need to anyway. I was give out, cranky as bloody hell, and they once again lost my equipment.

NicksMind · Post by **NicksMind** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:50 pm

I do not believe in God or the Devil so if I was to "sin" and shoot myself then I would be dead end of story, no heaven, no hell, no reincarnation just lights out.

Lightning Plant · Post by **Lightning Plant** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:00 pm

PSC27 wrote:As for the two negas, all I have to say is "Hail Negatron."

Give up trying to convense them. And actually I agree with you, religion shouldn't be taken too far. I mean, take myself for example, I believe in Heka, Auset, Ra, and Djehuti amoung others. I do try to do what's right with my knowledge and powers. And look at were it's gotten me. Stuck at some bloody airport in TX waiting for our ride. We've been waiting for 2 hours.

Some people don't exactly understand me either, so don't feel too bad chaps.

I agree. It's just that such arrogant small-mindedness really irritates the hell out of me.

Lightning Plant · Post by **Lightning Plant** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:01 pm

NicksMind wrote:Im with debunker on this one, If I was a Supernatural disruptor I would think I would have hordes of demons after me so they didnt have to worry about me. Conclusion: DEMONS ARE NOT REAL!!!!

They don't worry about you. They know that you won't see them, no matter what.

NicksMind · Post by **NicksMind** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:39 am

Hey Lightning plant, how can you prove that Demons exist? What can you say that would proove the existince of supernatural predators, I dont come on this site without experience in the rumors and heresays of demons. I have researched the myths and have discovered every possible liar in the state of Pennsylvania.

Lightning Plant · Post by **Lightning Plant** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:45 am

NicksMind wrote:Hey Lightning plant, how can you prove that Demons exist? What can you say that would proove the existince of supernatural predators, I dont come on this site without experience in the rumors and heresays of demons. I have researched the myths and have discovered every possible liar in the state of Pennsylvania.

I know that I can't say anything becuase you would just dismiss it out of hand. That doesn't stop me from trying, though.

NicksMind · Post by **NicksMind** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:43 pm

well if you had actual evidence, then there would be no dismissing anything, evidence speaks for itself and you have none but stories and "ecxperiences"

Lightning Plant · Post by **Lightning Plant** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:32 pm

NicksMind wrote:well if you had actual evidence, then there would be no dismissing anything, evidence speaks for itself and you have none but stories and "ecxperiences"

I didn't say that. I said that I know you'll just dismiss it, so why bother?

Father Arden · Post by **Father Arden** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:18 pm

PSC27 wrote:Well, it's like this...they, the vatican, has the largest occult liberary, so...Hey! I think that it's about bloody time the blokes put it to some good use!

Truth be told, we do...

Or at least, did...before the bastards defrocked me...I can't speak for them now...

Father Arden

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:27 pm

NicksMind wrote:I do not believe in God or the Devil so if I was to "sin" and shoot myself then I would be dead end of story, no heaven, no hell, no reincarnation just lights out.

Tombstone wrote:Here lies an athiest, all dressed up and nowhere to go.

NicksMind · Post by **NicksMind** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:06 am

exactly because after this life there is nothing else.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:55 pm

How would you know that? Ever gone there?

NicksMind · Post by **NicksMind** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:27 pm

If I had I wouldnt be here, because when you make it to death there is no going back, but go ahead and believe in life after death if you want to, obviously I cant make you stop, but I do ask that you stop trying to make it seem as though demons are hiding in back alleys and in sewers waiting to kill.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:11 pm

NicksMind wrote:If I had I wouldnt be here, because when you make it to death there is no going back, but go ahead and believe in life after death if you want to, obviously I cant make you stop, but I do ask that you stop trying to make it seem as though demons are hiding in back alleys and in sewers waiting to kill.

At least you did not say under the bed. You're coming round

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:33 pm

NicksMind wrote:If I had I wouldnt be here, because when you make it to death there is no going back, but go ahead and believe in life after death if you want to, obviously I cant make you stop, but I do ask that you stop trying to make it seem as though demons are hiding in back alleys and in sewers waiting to kill.

Naw, they don't hide there. They use them as transit paths.

NicksMind · Post by **NicksMind** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:08 pm

please dont make me laugh, my ribs still hurt from the other day.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:10 pm

I'm serious. The nasties haev figured out that we don't like to walk into those places, so they don't try to hunt from there.

Instead they stalk in school playgrounds and singles bars.

NicksMind · Post by **NicksMind** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:31 pm

yea im sure, singles bars please. I have seen some nasty women there but they didnt have scales, horns or fire breath.