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Ron Caliburn
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

They concern you?

Think how I feel.

I've had her going to the best specialists I can afford on this. That's one of the main reasons she hasn't been heard form much the last month or two.
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Post by Kei Nakamura »

Mr. Caliburn, if you would be as kind as to send any bio-elecrtric readings that have been taken, both at a normal state and during seizure, I would appreciate it.

My own condition has given me a bit of insight as well as a little expertise on the subject of unusual brain activity.
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Post by Prof. Rosecrest »

Ron did Hannah have that same sensation as the last time? About feeling like something was trying to get out?
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

No, fortunately.

She seems to have two types of seizures. The first was the one where something was trying to "get out" and stuff flying around the room - so far that's only happened once. The other type is what the docs tell me is a "petite mal" in which she just kinda zones out for a few momments. At the end of those she's exhausted and doesn't remember the previous 10 minutes or so.

I can forward what the doctors have to you Kei, but so far none o the seizures have happened when there was any doctors monitoring her.
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Post by Sophoroto »

Tell Miss hannah I hope she gets to feeling better.
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Post by Logos »

Ron, I'm so sorry to hear about this. It's always tough when it's the children that are hurting... And it's tough when you know that there is nothing you yourself cannot do. Kor and I aren't versed in any medical training beyond simple first aid, but... Ron, if there's anything we can do, I hope you know you can call us. I really hope that this is unrelated to her involvement with the supernatural, however.

Hannah, you get better soon, dear.
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Post by Kei Nakamura »

I do hope Hannah gets better soon, but do you happen to have a brainwave scan of the time that the "petite mal" seizure occurs? It could be some form of latent psi ability warring with the concious mind, more information would be required to know for certain, just a hypothesis based on my own condition and the case files I have available.


We may not see eye to eye on many things Mr. Caliburn, and you may not like my clinical approach, but if I can help through my approach, I shall endevor to do so.

I will also send to your adress a small portable brainwave scaning device, although this would necessitate the wearing of the electrodes untill the apropriate data is collected, the collection device is small and easy to conceal, wires not needed.

Oh, and depending on what is found, and Ms. Hannah's own willingness to give a sample of cerebral fluid, I can check for any form of chemical imbalance, as well as attemting to find a suitable method of correcting any that are found.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Hannah is grateful for the good wishes - she'll say more this weekend.

Kei, she hasn't been in a situation where she's been able to be scanned during or less than an hour or so after one of these seizures. Cereberal fluid - that depends on her doctors.
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Post by GhostSpider »

Ron, I have a question. When she had the seizure where things were flying all over the place and she said something was trying to get out. Was that the first seizure, or had she had others before that?
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

It was the first we're aware of . . . though since she claims it feels a lot when Not me escaped, we might have that as her very first known incident.

You'll have to forgive me if it's a little hard to get her medical history from the rest of the family.
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Post by GhostSpider »

Damn, I was hoping for a different answer.

Ok, scary theory time. This first seizure she had, when "something" tried to get out, could be connected to these "petite mal" seizures she's been having. Now, what if this time "something" is not trying to get out, but to get in deeper, so to speak. What if these seizures are just a physical manifestation of a battle that is taking place in her mind? It could possibly explain the lost time.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

That's one of the thoughts that keeps me up during the day.
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Post by GhostSpider »

Has anyone tried going into her head and checking things out?
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

She's had plenty of sessions with Rosencrest.
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Post by Sophoroto »

Ron Caliburn wrote:She's had plenty of sessions with Rosencrest.


Mr. Caliburn is Miss Hannah daydreaming when this happens? Could be like when Mr. Shadowstalker was there when not me escaped only instead of being asleep she is awake daydreaming.
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Post by GhostSpider »

Hey, you might be onto something Soph.
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Post by Sophoroto »

Really I hope it helps.

I was just thinking about when I used to go to school I sit in class and daydream out of boredom. :wink:
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Apparently, she had one the same time Sue had her episode on the 4th of July . . . if that helps anyone figure anything out.
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Post by concrete_Angel »

Oops. Hope I didn't do anything to her, Ron. :oops:
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Post by Sophoroto »

Miss Angel, I don't think you had anything to do with her seizures, I don't know for sure but there was nothing you could have done to keep it from happening even if your episode had something to do with it.
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Post by concrete_Angel »

Maybe not prevent it, but if I somehow made her get stressed, or something, that might have inadvertently triggered it.
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Post by Sophoroto »

Did you mean to have the episode or did it just happen without your knowledge? From what I have read it could be said that it was a type of siezure.

Of coarse I am no doctor, but I see no way you could have prevented what happened to you therefore you could not be blamed for Miss Hannah's siezure.
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Post by duamerthrax »

i talked to her about what happened, and it was more like really bad convulsons while she had a nightmare. something kind of like night terrors i guess. she might just be trying to cover all the bases, but i can't see how she did anything to hannah either.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Lots of mysteries abound . . . we should probably keep careful watch when we have your 2 near each other though.
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Post by GhostSpider »

Hmm, interesting.

We know Angel is a medium. (Insert joke here). We know Hannah has abilities, though we are unsure of what they are. Considering the fact that Angel's episode happened while in close proximity to Hannah...

What if Hannah was responsible for Angel's episode, and not the other way around. Perhaps I should clarify: What if Angel's proximity to Hannah brought on the episode?

Now, anyone who has read my last few posts on this thread know my theory, that something might be trying to enter our world through Hannah. Much like Not Ron did. Now I've been operating under the assumption that whatever it is needs Hannah to pull this off. So lets say this thing decided to follow the trail that Not Ron blazed. What if at the time Angel was visiting Ron's, the thing was about to make a first try at Hannah. Still with me?

Now, we know whatever abilities Hannah posses, they must be powerful. She teleported to Ron, that time in the hospital, and scared off Jeremiah and Not Ron. Belladrox always had an interest in Hannah, and he always liked to drop hints that he knew more about her than he was telling. Now, maybe at the time that Angel and Hannah were near each other, the thing dedided that instead of going against Hannah's abilities, it would go for a softer target. Like a medium. Whatever happened that night, it is clear that it must not have succeeded.

This make sense to anyone?
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Save that Sue apparently had her episode before Hannah did.

Also it wasn't a "getting out" type episode. In those, furniture flies around - there has only been one of those.

The seizres she's had since are quiet affairs that you might miss unless you knew what to look for.
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Post by GhostSpider »

Exactly. What if it decided to make a run at Angel before taking on Hannah?

Also, about the severity of the seizures. Maybe Hannah's subconcious was not prepared for the first attempt, and the TK show was the side-effect of the battle raging in her mind.

Like I've said, this is all just a theory.
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Post by Greydawn »

Between Mr. GhostSpider and yough Soph I believe they may be on the right track.
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Post by Hannah »

Hi GhostSpider

The first seizure was different than all the rest. It felt just like it did when Not Pa got outta me.

All the other seizures, I really don't remember much about 'em. In the case of Sue, I remember knowin' she was in trouble and wantin' ta help her out just before I lost it.

I wish I knew what caused 'em, but usually I have 'em with nobody around. Though Eilonwy told me she thought I was talkin' ta somebody just before I had one at home a month or so ago. Thing is, I wasn't talkin' ta her an' it was just her an' me home.

Hannah

PS: I hear your no longer subletting your mind, congratulations!
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Post by GhostSpider »

Subletting my mind? :?

Ohhh, I get it. :lol: :lol:

Yeah, Belladrox is gone. He checked out, but he left all his belongings behind.
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