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duamerthrax
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Post by duamerthrax »

so what, i'm evil? i thought i was just being played with, now i'm evil too?
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Post by KonThaak »

"Good" and "evil" are all in the eye of the beholder, man... It most likely wasn't *you* they were reacting to... Tori did say there was something "very off" about you, but she "couldn't put her finger on it"... That would certainly define what was going on around you at that point in time.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Evil is as evil does.

But evil isn't always an ignorant act.
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Post by Kolya »

Evil in humans is almost always a choice.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Or a lack of a choice.
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Post by Kolya »

Choice is the worst kind. That leads to lack of choice.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Huh? I know your english is better than that Koy.
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Post by Kolya »

Some choose an evil path. They find young and impressionable protoges.

It is a nature/nuture situation.

You raise a pit bull to be a fighter, it's going to be a fighter, despite its nature to be a dog.

The worst kind of human is the kind that nutures evil in other humans. Those that have evil nutured in them still need to be put down, but I have 1 degree of sympathy because I know exactly how they got to be where they are.

Still. Without mental derangment or other special extenuating circumstances, we are in control of our choices.
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

Kolya wrote:Still. Without mental derangment or other special extenuating circumstances, we are in control of our choices.

Even with that in mind, many still have choices. They are just predisposed in a certain way. It is rare when someone has truly lost their agency. And horrible.
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Post by Kolya »

I agree wholeheartedly.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Some do evil because they have yet to make a choice.
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

Ron Caliburn wrote:Some do evil because they have yet to make a choice.

I believe the saying is something to the effect of, “The only thing for Evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.” Very true words.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Yes it is.

You also see it a lot around in the blight. The kids here grow up with violence and drgs, so they never question, never think that there is any other way, so they never make a choice about what they are going to do with their lives ... usually they end up bleeding out in the gutter before 25.
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

Ron Caliburn wrote:Yes it is.

You also see it a lot around in the blight. The kids here grow up with violence and drgs, so they never question, never think that there is any other way, so they never make a choice about what they are going to do with their lives ... usually they end up bleeding out in the gutter before 25.

You go into the Blight for one reason . . . I’ll probably go in for another.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

I'd feel better if you didn't go in at all.

You make a very obvious target there.
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Post by Kolya »

Whereever you go, don't get lost.
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

Ron Caliburn wrote:I'd feel better if you didn't go in at all.

You make a very obvious target there.

Well, there is that of course . . . but I can’t ignore the fact that few people are trying to help them as it is, Ron.
Kolya wrote:Whereever you go, don't get lost.

Obviously, I’d keep my cellphone handy, Kolya. No worries there.
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Post by Kolya »

I never go anywhere without someone knowing where I am going and when I anticipate returning. Suggest (again) you do the same.
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

Very well. I normally try to do that too, but . . . sometimes that doesn’t always work out that way.
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Post by Kolya »

Make it work ;)
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

It's a new habit for a few around here.

So far only Hannah seems to have it down - but she almost never goes anywhere without one of us anyway.
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Post by Shadowstalker »

Seem like a few people need to fallow Hannah's good example.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

I can't be too detailed though - don't want either of the girls to try to follow me into the Blight.
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

Ron Caliburn wrote:I can't be too detailed though - don't want either of the girls to try to follow me into the Blight.

We would, you know. If we thought you were getting into something you couldn’t get out of by yourself.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

I don't need the headaches of watching out for you 2 and dealing with whats out there.
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Post by concrete_Angel »

Wait, so Ron can't go without you and Hannah, but it's perfectly all right for you to wander off alone in the middle of the night? I'm sensing a strong double-standard coming from your direction.
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

concrete_Angel wrote:Wait, so Ron can't go without you and Hannah, but it's perfectly all right for you to wander off alone in the middle of the night? I'm sensing a strong double-standard coming from your direction.

I’m sure he would have tried to dissuade me if he had caught me; But generally speaking . . . Ron doesn’t tell me what to do; he only gives me advice.
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Post by Shadowstalker »

I don't think anyone here doubts that you are an adult who can make your own choices Eilonwy.
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

If I had been home when she left the house the way she did, I definitely would have tried to stop her . . . or at least make sure she dressed.
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Post by duamerthrax »

:shock:

there's an image.
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