Help: Danger in St. Paul
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Help: Danger in St. Paul
This is nothing like what I expected. I almost turned around and deleted this bookmark. There is a lot of crazy stuff here. If I did not need help... well, I guess I do, so you guys are it. Let me introduce myself. You can already see that my name is Bernard Willoughby. I work for a local television station here in St. Paul. I am in the Research Department. I received a video tape in the mail from outside of the station. Um, I do not know how to put it. There is something terrible on it.
At first I thought someone sent me porno tape. There was a man and a woman. I was about to turn it off--I do not need to get fired for questionable material in the workplace--when the woman changed. I just can't describe it any way other than changed. She became something different, and then she... and then she... I cannot even say it. If someone could tell me what I saw. I can send it someone if they can verify that it isn't some new horror movie or something.
If it is real then something needs to be done. The body count will go up. I, uh, I had a dream last night. Something needs to be done. If I have to do it I will, but I think I could really use some back up.
At first I thought someone sent me porno tape. There was a man and a woman. I was about to turn it off--I do not need to get fired for questionable material in the workplace--when the woman changed. I just can't describe it any way other than changed. She became something different, and then she... and then she... I cannot even say it. If someone could tell me what I saw. I can send it someone if they can verify that it isn't some new horror movie or something.
If it is real then something needs to be done. The body count will go up. I, uh, I had a dream last night. Something needs to be done. If I have to do it I will, but I think I could really use some back up.
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WHAO! Slow down Mr. Willoughby! Im gald you've come this far and contacted the society for help, this site is full of people who can help you, but we need to go a step a time sir.
I think we need more details as far as looking into if we can call it a hoax or a new horror film, or something else entirely. As im sure your aware though, outside of our circle most anyone else you know will never buy it as more than a hoax (no matter how realistic or horrific it may look).
Perhaps sending out a copy to someone to analyze it may be the best response, I'd be happy to look iot over myself, but Im not the most qualifyed as I've never done any real monster studies before (and this sounds like the female in the video certainly could be.)
And if it's turns out to be the real deal (and you'd be suprised at how often it is), you're correct in saying that something will need to done about it.
I think we need more details as far as looking into if we can call it a hoax or a new horror film, or something else entirely. As im sure your aware though, outside of our circle most anyone else you know will never buy it as more than a hoax (no matter how realistic or horrific it may look).
Perhaps sending out a copy to someone to analyze it may be the best response, I'd be happy to look iot over myself, but Im not the most qualifyed as I've never done any real monster studies before (and this sounds like the female in the video certainly could be.)
And if it's turns out to be the real deal (and you'd be suprised at how often it is), you're correct in saying that something will need to done about it.
"Truth is stranger than fiction, and much more terrifying."
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If possible, try to have someone ID where the video took place. Then someone could do a background count for anything Psychic or Arcane in nature. Helps narrow the field down, so to speak. Also, verifying the location helps to figure the validity of the film, assuming there is a documented police report of murder or some such in the area, or bodies turning up in the vicinity. If not- could be the hoax option.
The science of any sufficiently advanced society would appear as magic to those less developed...
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I found it in today's paper before I got to work. We carried the story at noon, six, and eleven. I do not know why it did not run during the morning news. Somebody was probably asleep at the wheel. I cannot be one hundred percent sure but too many things fit. A local man was found dead in a hotel room. His picture looks like the man from the video, at least I think it does. The paper described it as a brutal slaying perpetrated by, and this is their quote, "an animalistic degenerate".
I got in touch with a friend of mine. He has connections with the local PD. He got back to me almost right away and said that he could not get anywhere near the case. I owe him big time for whatever strings he pulled but he got me one peice of information. The victim had, he had been partially eaten.
I have pushed myself long enough, I have to get some sleep or I'll be useless come morning. I just hope I don't have one of those dreams, or if I do, it will at least yeild some insight on what is going here. I've sent a copy of the tape to someone for verification. For added insurance/safety I have also sent you one, Tabloid Hound, thank you. Also, thank you everyone else for getting back to me. I'll post more as I get it.
I got in touch with a friend of mine. He has connections with the local PD. He got back to me almost right away and said that he could not get anywhere near the case. I owe him big time for whatever strings he pulled but he got me one peice of information. The victim had, he had been partially eaten.
I have pushed myself long enough, I have to get some sleep or I'll be useless come morning. I just hope I don't have one of those dreams, or if I do, it will at least yeild some insight on what is going here. I've sent a copy of the tape to someone for verification. For added insurance/safety I have also sent you one, Tabloid Hound, thank you. Also, thank you everyone else for getting back to me. I'll post more as I get it.
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sounds.. oddly.. like .. a Daikini... Was it .. Scaly? if it is, it isn't...
but if it iwas.. damn, I could sure use one around here... Nice way to get back at all the people that used me...
What do you wish to do about this Monster? hunt it down? Order more videos? Or to shut down the Operation?
Or do you wish to know what you saw? without some sort of visual We really can't help.
Note: Daikini are not that common, a rather modern day Monster, They are very rare and not quite as strong as a succubus.. which is what you seem to be describing.
Daikini don't roam This world too much, THEY DO frequent Hell's Harbor. Don't ask.
but if it iwas.. damn, I could sure use one around here... Nice way to get back at all the people that used me...
What do you wish to do about this Monster? hunt it down? Order more videos? Or to shut down the Operation?
Or do you wish to know what you saw? without some sort of visual We really can't help.
Note: Daikini are not that common, a rather modern day Monster, They are very rare and not quite as strong as a succubus.. which is what you seem to be describing.
Daikini don't roam This world too much, THEY DO frequent Hell's Harbor. Don't ask.
" I wanna live, I wanna Love, It's a long hard road out of hell. I want to Live Forever, Forever will always Be... "
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Sorry I have been absent. It has been very hectic at the station. There has been a wrinkle in the case that I have presented you. I do not know what to make of it but I am beginning to think that I find it very disturbing. A man has been arrested in the murder of the victim I described. This of course does not fit at all considering with my own eyes I saw that at the least a woman did it, if not a monster. The man arrested in no way at all resembles the woman I saw. Every journalistic instinct in my body says I am being duped with this tape, but I know better. I know!
There are things out there. I do not know if the labels we slap on them fit. Or if the old appelations are correct. However I know of, have witnessed, even "dealt" with, things that were not human then if ever in their existences. As for this thing... other than watching the news that comes in, and ignoring the fact that the police in this matter are clueless, I could use some suggestions of how to get to it before the next time it kills, before it feeds.
There are things out there. I do not know if the labels we slap on them fit. Or if the old appelations are correct. However I know of, have witnessed, even "dealt" with, things that were not human then if ever in their existences. As for this thing... other than watching the news that comes in, and ignoring the fact that the police in this matter are clueless, I could use some suggestions of how to get to it before the next time it kills, before it feeds.
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Settle down sir, your rocking your own boat! It's nothing more than a hoax. Hell, its never anything more than a hoax. I've seen my large share of some very compelling and realistic looking video's and photos in my time, but they are always fake, with many of the hoaxers coming forward and admitting so. The man who's been arrested for murder is most likely guilty of it, and this tape's arrival to you is just pure coincidence of timing. It's a sad shame that a murder has taken place, but it wasn't a monster that killed him.
So take a deep breath and toss the tape away. Its not doing you any good to dwell on it, that's just what the prankster's want you to do. Don't let some bunch of punks with too much time on thier hands ruin your good name and healthy mind.
So take a deep breath and toss the tape away. Its not doing you any good to dwell on it, that's just what the prankster's want you to do. Don't let some bunch of punks with too much time on thier hands ruin your good name and healthy mind.
Elliott James Tobias III
AKA: Debunker
"The truth is indeed out there...science has been pointing it out for centuries."
AKA: Debunker
"The truth is indeed out there...science has been pointing it out for centuries."
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Man, you know what you saw. You also know that means the police are sending an innocent man to the slammer.
Now the big, big, big question is . . . do you think the police know what you know?
Here are the possibilities:
1) They don't, and if you present it to them they will take it seriously and investigate.
2) They don't, and if you present it to them they will look it over, decide its a fake and call you a hack from now on.
3) They do, but they feel that the public isn't ready to know creatures like you saw exist, so they are setting up a guy who they probably think is guilty of a pretty nasty crime to take the fall. If you take the tape to them they will do a combination of 1) (to find out who taped this) and 2) (to discredit you)
4) They do, and they are covering for the allies of the creature you saw and they are pinnning the murder on an enemy of themselves and the creature you saw to further their goals. If you take the tape to them you will be lucky to be discredited. More likely they will interrogate you to establish the source of the tape and who you might have passed it along to. Then they will discredit you or kill you. Then they will do the same to everyone who you managed to give them a lead to.
Welcome to the otherside of the looking glass.
Now the big, big, big question is . . . do you think the police know what you know?
Here are the possibilities:
1) They don't, and if you present it to them they will take it seriously and investigate.
2) They don't, and if you present it to them they will look it over, decide its a fake and call you a hack from now on.
3) They do, but they feel that the public isn't ready to know creatures like you saw exist, so they are setting up a guy who they probably think is guilty of a pretty nasty crime to take the fall. If you take the tape to them they will do a combination of 1) (to find out who taped this) and 2) (to discredit you)
4) They do, and they are covering for the allies of the creature you saw and they are pinnning the murder on an enemy of themselves and the creature you saw to further their goals. If you take the tape to them you will be lucky to be discredited. More likely they will interrogate you to establish the source of the tape and who you might have passed it along to. Then they will discredit you or kill you. Then they will do the same to everyone who you managed to give them a lead to.
Welcome to the otherside of the looking glass.
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Mr. Caliburn, I have absolutely no intention of taking this tape to the authorities. I decided against that from the very outset. The false imprisonment of that man in custody, no matter what his other criminal involvements may or may not be only proves that I was correct, and most likely your hypothesis number 4 is the way things are.
As much as I have avoided any conflicts with the authorities I still seem to be pinned in the middle of this. This afternoon I was approached in broad daylight in a crowded mall by the female in the video tape. I cannot tell you guys how harrowing of an experience it was. She came right up to me and asked if I had seen any good videos lately.
I will not repeat the whole conversation but the gist of it seemed to be to guage my interesting in receiving her latest conquest. Then she pulled something out of her purse and slipped it into my jack pocket. She told me not to open it until I was out of the mall. There wasn't anything I could do with all those people around.
Then she leaned in a pressed her lips against my cheek. Those lips were cold and I could feel something wet slip out between them and wipe across my ear. If it was a tongue it was really long. I barely managed not to scream. Then she was moving through the crowd away from me.
I stood there staring at nothing for I do not know how long. When I snapped out of it I rushed to the nearest restroom. I locked myself in a stall and retrieved her present from my pocket. It was wrapped in a white cloth mottled with dark brown stains. I unravelled it and found part of a partially eaten hand!
Everything is fun and games until you are holding dead human flesh, Mr. Debunker. What is my next move going to be? What can I do?
As much as I have avoided any conflicts with the authorities I still seem to be pinned in the middle of this. This afternoon I was approached in broad daylight in a crowded mall by the female in the video tape. I cannot tell you guys how harrowing of an experience it was. She came right up to me and asked if I had seen any good videos lately.
I will not repeat the whole conversation but the gist of it seemed to be to guage my interesting in receiving her latest conquest. Then she pulled something out of her purse and slipped it into my jack pocket. She told me not to open it until I was out of the mall. There wasn't anything I could do with all those people around.
Then she leaned in a pressed her lips against my cheek. Those lips were cold and I could feel something wet slip out between them and wipe across my ear. If it was a tongue it was really long. I barely managed not to scream. Then she was moving through the crowd away from me.
I stood there staring at nothing for I do not know how long. When I snapped out of it I rushed to the nearest restroom. I locked myself in a stall and retrieved her present from my pocket. It was wrapped in a white cloth mottled with dark brown stains. I unravelled it and found part of a partially eaten hand!
Everything is fun and games until you are holding dead human flesh, Mr. Debunker. What is my next move going to be? What can I do?
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oh... ew... I know what you mean...
I'm not sure whether to think it would be better or worse than my dog's little surprise, what with it being fresh and all...
either way, eew...
if nobody else can help and you can pay air-fare, I guess I might be able to come up there and help or something... not sure how much good I'd be to you though...
I'm not sure whether to think it would be better or worse than my dog's little surprise, what with it being fresh and all...
either way, eew...
if nobody else can help and you can pay air-fare, I guess I might be able to come up there and help or something... not sure how much good I'd be to you though...
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Well here's my thought on what's happening.
You have to remember that these creatures get off on playign games. They want you to be scared, to feel helpless and to otherwise be ripping yourself apart mentally.
She's chosen you because you belong to a profession that is founded on the dissemination of the truth to the broadest possible audience. So what she's doing is giving you a truth so horrific that every fibre of you wants to scream it from the rooftops to all who would listen - but nobody will listen because they won't belive you.
She wants you to suffer and twist in the wind. She wants you to know every time she makes a kill. Sonn she'll probably start salking and killing those you know, moving closer and closer to see how well she can tighten the screws. To see just how far she can take you before you break.
This is all about power, she wants it, and to get it she has to convince you that she is the one with the power in this relationship. She has to convince you that you are a helpless witness to her predations. She has to convince you that she is something to be afraid of.
If you give into your fears, you give her power.
What you need to do is to show you are not afraid. What's mroe you need to show that she has no power. You need to find a way to go on the offensive. You need to track her and stalk her. you need to interfere with her kills and ultimately, you need to bring her down.
If you want to learn how, send me a private message.
I can't promsie you things won't get bad. But if you let her have her way, things will get much worse.
You have to remember that these creatures get off on playign games. They want you to be scared, to feel helpless and to otherwise be ripping yourself apart mentally.
She's chosen you because you belong to a profession that is founded on the dissemination of the truth to the broadest possible audience. So what she's doing is giving you a truth so horrific that every fibre of you wants to scream it from the rooftops to all who would listen - but nobody will listen because they won't belive you.
She wants you to suffer and twist in the wind. She wants you to know every time she makes a kill. Sonn she'll probably start salking and killing those you know, moving closer and closer to see how well she can tighten the screws. To see just how far she can take you before you break.
This is all about power, she wants it, and to get it she has to convince you that she is the one with the power in this relationship. She has to convince you that you are a helpless witness to her predations. She has to convince you that she is something to be afraid of.
If you give into your fears, you give her power.
What you need to do is to show you are not afraid. What's mroe you need to show that she has no power. You need to find a way to go on the offensive. You need to track her and stalk her. you need to interfere with her kills and ultimately, you need to bring her down.
If you want to learn how, send me a private message.
I can't promsie you things won't get bad. But if you let her have her way, things will get much worse.
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Lookee what my little remote keystroke logger found!
Nice little place you boys have here.
Playing all your little games. Pretending to be super heroes fighting against the darkness.
You can't win! Even some of your own members don't believe you. There is no way you can even pretend to turn the tide!
And none of you can help poor little Bernard. NONE OF YOU! He's mine!!!
Nice little place you boys have here.
Playing all your little games. Pretending to be super heroes fighting against the darkness.
You can't win! Even some of your own members don't believe you. There is no way you can even pretend to turn the tide!
And none of you can help poor little Bernard. NONE OF YOU! He's mine!!!
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Bernard Willoughby wrote:Lookee what my little remote keystroke logger found!
Nice little place you boys have here.
Playing all your little games. Pretending to be super heroes fighting against the darkness.
You can't win! Even some of your own members don't believe you. There is no way you can even pretend to turn the tide!
And none of you can help poor little Bernard. NONE OF YOU! He's mine!!!
Electronic warfare is a two way street. If you can get to here. I can get to you. You aren't the first kidnapper that's been dealt with on this board. I think it was an unbeliever who did the last one in, too. Even if Willoughby does die, do you really want to spend the rest of your existence looking over your shoulder? You're kidding yourself if you think you can win.
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Just as an update, I had some friends of mine do a little snooping around. Willoughby's internet account is still active and seems to have been accessed several times since the posting. No visits traceable to this board, but they do seem to have been in the midwest. The most recent was somewhere on the North Side of Chicago and that was a day ago. So far, nothing tonight.
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Okay, I am back. First off I would like to thank The Traveler King for putting that monster in it's place. Upon reading that message from it in my name I swept the house for bugs and other devices. I found the keystroke logger. I knew I certainly was not hacked. I have a super paranoid friend who helped set me up. Obviously now he is paranoid about physical intrusion too. So once I pulled the device and made sure there is nothing else around I changed my passwords--here and everywhere--and tonight I am switching providers to somewhere with physical as well software firewalls.
The authorities have discovered a body missing a hand. I can almost bet it is the one that I was given. I am going to pass it off to a friend, that informant I mentioned, and he will get it to the police so they can determine if it is from that body. Then hopefully I can get some information back again through my friend.
I think I might finally get a lead on this creature. I have been having dreams about this place. Something is going on there and I try to see it, but so far it just is not happening. It is like I am hiding, but I have come to the scene too early.
Must go see if I can move things forward.
The authorities have discovered a body missing a hand. I can almost bet it is the one that I was given. I am going to pass it off to a friend, that informant I mentioned, and he will get it to the police so they can determine if it is from that body. Then hopefully I can get some information back again through my friend.
I think I might finally get a lead on this creature. I have been having dreams about this place. Something is going on there and I try to see it, but so far it just is not happening. It is like I am hiding, but I have come to the scene too early.
Must go see if I can move things forward.
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