Ben didn't kill his family nor his friends, that was the work of you and Death.

There were others still that had more to do with those deaths than even Death or you Dark. So stop trying to hold them over Ben's head.

But that isn't the Truth. Not even close. You don't care about the Truth though do you evil Ben.

You can't handle the truth Dark.

Jeremiah Dark wrote:"The truth sir. I am the truth you all tell yourselves so you can get through you pathetic little day without screaming.

See ya' soon Boss."

You are a delusion. A figment of a wounded mind and soul. There is no Truth in you. Only shadows of horrors.

Bert_the_Turtle wrote:You are a delusion. A figment of a wounded mind and soul. There is no Truth in you. Only shadows of horrors.

"You are kidding right. Funny how that sounds just like you sir. Ya' talk all you want, it won't bring your men back. At least Benny Boy was able to go on with his life instead of hiding in a hole in the ground for two years. Who's dilusional now coward. I bet your men would love to see you again.

Have fun Boss."

I carry many sins, but that is not one of them.

Jeremiah Dark wrote:"Oh now that was original Arthur, almost as original as having three sigs.

Don't you have some villain to fillet, or did he get away from you again. You should be used to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory by now sir, its what you do best.

See ya' soon Boss."

Actually, the first name is Andrew. You should know your hunters better.

Youre in my house now Boss."

Looking forward to burning it down "boss".

Jeremiah Dark wrote:GABRIEL - The druid's designated pit bull. Maybe if you stopped playing gaurdian angel to that druid ou may be a serious threat.

Honestly, I had higher expectations of you. "Guardian angel", hmm? That's why I spent three nights outside your window, attempting to get a clear shot at that pretty little head of yours, while you did everything to save your own ass, going so far as to use that bitch of a nurse as a human shield. If I didn't need my soul back so badly, she wouldn't have been such a roadblock in my path to killing you...

So much for not caring whether or not Ben dies, though, huh? Every time you say that, and someone from these forums starts sounding like they might step up to the challenge, suddenly, you start criticizing that decision. "Oh, it's murder!" you say. "You'd be killing poor Ben!" you cry.

Getting nervous, little bitch? Realizing how much you rely on his livelihood, are we?

This is the part where I tell you to go fuck yourself five ways from Sunday. I would say six, but I know you like to keep your Saturdays open to whore yourself out to folks like Loki and Nain. Do you suck them off like you do Ben, little bitch, or do you bend over for them?

Do us a fucking favor and self-destruct already. Stop wasting our bandwidth, and the precious oxygen that could be getting put to much better use.

Jeremiah Dark wrote:KON THAAK - Theres a joke. He can't take care of himself how does he expect to save his family and friends. Its only a matter of time before he has that mass grave in the backyard with four lil' tombstones to weep over.

Uhm... When did we get a back yard? Whoo, we're moving up in the world! =P

And...four? Did we forget how to count? If I'm still alive, that leaves Alexis, Julian, and if you remembered our dog, Amelia. I doubt you did, though; I hardly ever talk about her. That makes three... One, two, three. C'mon, Ben, I know you can count that high...

You might have forgotten the dog and remembered Lex's dolls, but burying dolls seems kinda stupid, don't'cha think? Then again, I suppose that is your thing...

If you wanna show me how much of a joke you think I am, then c'mon. I'll be glad to deliver a punchline you won't soon forget.

Hate, rage... Hmm... Why would you want to elicit a response of hate and rage in me? For that matter, why do you think you *could* elicit hate or rage? I've got plenty of it, believe me. You just ain't worth my time. =P

Four graves, huh. Sure, whatever you say. I ain't the one failing math, here.

"You have done well my friend. Jeremiah has expedd his energies for the night. I am free to speak yet again. Do not underestimate Dark. He is a serious threat, for he, as do I, possess the gift of sight.

He speaks true when he claims four, but not in graves Jeremiah. Oh no. I see but one. Your own. You know that I will alow no harm to come to Benjamin, but be warned Jereiah, it is a dangerous game you play, one you can not possibly win.

I am weak as well my friends,
I can not hold him once he recovers. Seek the truth about Benjamin, confront him with it and help aleve his suffering.
Jeremiah holds Benjamin as his own prisoner with lies and half truths.

Ben did not kill the...

"THAT IS ENOUGH OUT OF YOU GAURDIAN! BACK IN YOUR CAGE! BBenny Boy is mine! His suffering is mine! Youa re powerless to stop me Gaurdian. They will never find the truth. They ca not even find the truth in themselves, so how do you expect them to show Benny Boy his own?"

he exhausts his energies... by talking and arguing? That's kinda weak.

Well if it's me, let him come. I need a good laugh.

I was washing up for a long while, mulling things over. I was hit with a question: What would I want if I were in Ben's position?

On the one hand, there are those that depend on him. There are those that love him, as a friend. There are those that respect him, as a senior. There are those who pity him, as a victim.

He is, I feel, not responsible for what has been going on. As said earlier, he is the victim. However, despite the fact that so many are so emotionally tied to him, there are many who suffer, many who die due to his continued existance. I think that too many have died already.

This man, a hero, is capable of doing many great things if he is brought back. However, is the cost of bringing him back too much? Will he be the Ben everyone knows and loves by the time he returns? These questions also lead to dead ends, as no one can be certain.

This brings me back to the initial question. What would I want? It's hard to say, as I've never been in a situation even vaguely like his... But in all honesty, I think... *ahem*... I think that I would rather die, than know that others died unnecessarily. This man has many friends who can take care of his dependants. It's tough for me to come to that conclusion, as I know that it will without a doubt hurt those closest to Ben, but I think that with the costs of his continued survival stacking, it would... *ahem*... probably put Ben at ease to know that his and others' sufferings are coming to an end.

Now, this is what Jeremiah claims that he wants, right? and why give someone so evil, so depraved, so cruel something he wants, right? The simple answer is that sometimes you lose. You really, honestly can't win them all, whether the loss ends in the death of a comrade, loss of respect, or whatever else fate throws your way. Sure, he'll be getting what he wants... But can we justify the deaths of any more innocent people? The tongue he sent begs for revenge... The unborn infant and slain mother, currently on their way to my station, beg the question,"Why did this happen to US?" They were just people living their lives, when suddenly death encroaches. And for what? There is no justification for their deaths. I'm open-minded, though. If anyone wants to try to dissuade me from this decision, please, by all means. I'm only stating my observations, and my opinions, and my new resolve. If Ben can be saved before someone kills him, peachy, great! On the other hand, the number of those who suffer need to be minimalized.

A well resoned arguement Zack. Bert you Ghost and soon to be Shang are the ones there. I think I know Ghost's vote, what do you think and the same question to Shang?

I think you're mistaken, Shadow. I'm nowhere near there. I'm back at home right now, in the same geographic area as KT, Adama, and the Legacy crew. Our friend Jeremiah claims that he wants to pay us a visit here pretty soon, though.

I know that Zack I was asking what Bert, Ghost, and Shang thought as they are near enough to Ben to do something.

This will end soon, I have found the building. Care for Tea dark? Yes I have many good men's blood on my hands, so if necessary, I will just have one more to atone for.

I'm just checking in. Sun's up, no visit from the bullfrog here last night.