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Organizing our efforts

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:42 pm
by DarKnyht
As was suggested in another topic, we need to get our act together. Since the sponsoring organization cannot provide the coordination we really need, I guess it is up to us to create it. Holister came up with a very good start for doing this.

1) We set up regional contact points between members where they have to check in every 24 hours or so when they are out in the field. This way when something goes awry, and they don't contact that regional person, we can go in and find them.

2) We set up eight regional contact points

A) New England -that would be me

B) Mid Atlantic sea board - that could be Ron.

C) Southeast _ Don't know.

D) Great lakes area - KT

E) Midwest - don't kow.

F) Gulf States/Texas - Razor

G) Southwest & California - Don't know

H) Northwest - Don't know.

Plus we should have foriegn coespondants also -

Like Hideoshi for Japan and Kolya for Russia.

3) These contact points should also have Safehouses available in the area. Since this is a Society endevor, we all split the bill and offer up what we can along the lines of weapons, gear, medical, intel, magic, psi, and knowledge.

4) Keep the pesonal info and greivances on the boards to a minimum cause we don't know who is listening. Hell, I could be The Devil himself with an internet connection, who wold know unless we met in person.

I can only vouch for some of you, and the likewise can be said for alot of ya'll back.

5) Keep up with the Lazlo Greeting Signals. I say we use that at the beginning of ever coespondance between members to prevent infiltration by evil forces.


I don't think 24 hour check ins will be necessary, but at least a weekly notice to the main contact will let everyone know you are alive.

What is everyone else's opinion on this?

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:45 pm
by Holister
I still say that 24 hours is a big enough window for somethin' to go down as it is.
Back home I keep my men on 6 hour shifts with check in every two hours.

Askin' for a check in every 24 keeps that window of opportunity small, and if something does go wrong, we won't have that much time to backtrack. And in this line of work, every hour counts.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:54 pm
by GhostSpider
24hr check-ins :? . Hell, you guys only seem to hear from me every six months :lol: .

I'd like to volunteer for a roaming contact position. My team and I are constantly on the move and are not adverse to traveling where the work is.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:01 am
by Holister
Thats not a bad idea either. Could set you up with a full satellite comms set up, full coast to coast coverage that inlcudes police and F&R frequencies to.

Sort of a mobile ops unit.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:32 am
by GhostSpider
Hmm, I'd need the equipment, but our Winnebago does have the space, at least according to my tech guy (girl actually).

Mobile ops unit, I like the sound of it.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:36 am
by Gothicfox
Ya know, if I was a bad guy who wanted to put a hurt on this soceity military extension of its arm, I'd be sending you a thank you note.

Posting this kind of information is a real bad idea.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:47 am
by BraveSirRobin
yeah, cause it's not like far more specific information isn't already out there...
Gothicfox's Profile wrote:Mobile, Alabama

oh... wait...

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:57 am
by Gothicfox
You do know, I put that there while I was out of the country for close to two years?

I don't expect you to understand, or try to. Deception is the best friend a man can have in the business I do. Like working on a lap top with wifi or sat-hook up. Again, small details easy to miss.

And it reinforces my point. I don't see the point in making this list. We're individuals who fight nightmares. We're not a militant part of the Lazlo Society, just people coming together to trade stories, ideas, and ask for help. You make something more of this and people are going to get interested. Maybe it'll be the wrong people thinking this is nothing more then another militia group with too much paranoia on their hands. Maybe it'll be the bad guys looking for pay back and would ENJOY knowing who's where and what they do.

I know the super elite who pride themselves on their ideas will ignore this, minimalize it for personal reasons (i.e. hating me being the mean reason), but hey, this is one of the reasons we come to the board. To exchange ideas.

I'm going to be nice Robin, you want to fight, I'm the willing to oblige you.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:24 am
by DarKnyht
Hey, we are not wanting to fight. We are just hoping to somehow put a buddy system if you will into place. If it wasn't for Shadowstalker tracking me, I probably would not be here today. There are quite a few of us that owe someone else on here their life.

I am just proposing that we try to keep the casualties down as much as possible.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:12 am
by Ron Caliburn
Preperation makes sense, more than a few of us have been lost who might not have been if the rest of the society had been aware of what was going on.

However I don't think there is any need to turn this into a secret society or miltia to do so.

The main reason the society was created was to provie a resource for those who wnated to know more about the supernatural . . . it is no coincidence that a lot of us seek to protect mankind from the monsters in the closet, but we really are not and should not consider ourselves to be a millitant group.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:53 am
by Legacy
Hey uh Mitch here. Im not lookin to pick a fight ro anything but uh if were not being militaristic and stuff why would we need to be worried about our enemies findin us and stuff?

I mean some of us rely on being honest about our whereabouts and stuff. Our group needs clients and we need for people to know where we are so they can contact us for help. Were not much of an investigation agency if we hide who and where we are... And I bet theree others who want folks to know where theyre at so they can help and stuff. How can we gain the publics trust if nobody knows who or where anyone is?

I mean some of you guys do have powerful enemies and cant let them know where your at and stuff. I understand that. But we know that KT lives somewhere in the suburbs of Chicago which is a lot more specific than the "Great Lakes". We know where Ron lives now because of recent posts. We know what town Ben comes from.

And your enemies might end up hurting people in Alabama looking for you if they're really the kind to go on the information on the boards.

Liek I said Im not lookin for a fight just sayin.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:36 pm
by DarKnyht
I am one that prefers for the most part to work alone when I hunt, however there is always someone that knows were I am going in case something goes bad. I am just suggesting that to some extent we do this on a board level.

I don't think we need to post things like, "Hey I am in Los Angeles, CA and I am staying at the Motel 6 just off of exit 280 in room 102. I will be raiding the werewolves' layer tonight at 5:34 pm CST." But I suggesting that we establish something like a buddy system to let someone know what you are up to. Even if we run this through PMs to ensure that only the member you trusts knows.

Likewise, I don't want to see this becoming militant organization, but I am sick of seeing allies disappear without a trace.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:25 pm
by Shadowstalker
There are valid points being made for all sides of this discussion, I agree that something should be done, but even I find Ben's Plan over reaching and involved. I think that we should be able to do something far simpler, and direct. The more involved a plan is the more things can go wrong.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:26 pm
by BraveSirRobin
Gothicfox wrote:I'm going to be nice Robin, you want to fight, I'm the willing to oblige you.

I'd have thought my willingness to fight would be obvious by now, Foxy.

More to the point: I, for one, fail to see any harm in calling, emailing, or otherwise contacting somebody once a day and quoting my signature at them.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:49 pm
by Holister
Robin; Gothicfox wants to pick a fight with just about everyone on these boards. He can't seem to get his trogladyte basement dwelling ignorant narrow minded head out of his ass long enough to see that he is a piece of rat shit and the board's own personal joke whose ravings hold bout as much importance as a bologna sandwhich I left on the windowsill two days ago.

Have a Nice Day :)

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:51 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Thnks for helping to keep things mature and civil Ben.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:40 am
by Gothicfox
I'm guessing, Holli, since its your idea you want to be in charge of it. Why not, makes sense. More to add to your ego problem. I'm guessing the only reason your mad is because its your idea and I'm the one who dares pokes it with a stick to see what rotten pieces fall out.

And thats what this board is for: trade and share information among a community dedicated to hunt the supernatural. Swap ideas, swap materials, swap war stories; I got no problem with that.

Turn this into a staging ground for a world wide assault on the demonic and your inviting the demonic to come have a field day. History supports my reasons for pointing this out.

For once I'm actually glad I'm the black sheep of this board, less chance that the bad guys coming after me while they screw with the so-called elite (my interjection of the word, no one else).

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:05 am
by Holister
Evil does not want to find you Gothic, it has better things to do with its time than to go the "Stan's Hitch 'N' Ride Trailer Park" and go door to door askin' "Hey, have you seen this asshole? He's like just so totally annoyin'."

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:18 am
by Gothicfox
So, I guess thats a yes...

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:39 am
by Michael T
Again I am asking for a end to the agression between members please. Our efforts can be more productive with less friction. We need to find a way to work without the hostility, you never know who may save your hide out of chance. And we never know who we may have to work with due to sheer timing of a case.

Michael T.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:03 am
by Gothicfox
And how would you like this hostility to end, exactly? I'm kinda curious what you ideas are.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:10 am
by Holister
Well, you could start by takin' a nic long walk off a very short peir with that stack of bibles you go spoutin' off from but never read.

Ya know, I never knew they made Religious Rantin's for Dummies. "

Ya want the bikein to stop; well you are leaps and bounds in front of the pack. Ya' went and pissed off KT, me, Robin,
Master Li, Adam, and lord knows who else. So get ya' head out of your ass and just try to act like a team player.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:03 am
by Michael T
Well instead of picking at one another or baiting some one if you don't wish to speak to them don't. Post you input in the thread and do not attack someone elses input, if it is wrong provide some facts to point it out. It is a simple matter of each person policing themselves. If some one cannot them a mediater they like and trust can be found to help curb the hostility.

We are not children and can tolerate each other enough to be civil to each other on the forum. Rember as well any new members may be turned away if they see the strife here. And how many new hunters/investigators will die because they could not in good faith ask a simple question on this fourm? How many may have alredy died bedcause the hstility on the board is enough to make them decide that it would not be worth the effort to post where everyone seems out to do each other in. Lincoln has already been quoted here on the division that is occuring, I refuse to side with either camp. I would prefer we have a debate in civil manner than all out attacks from any of us. I do enjoy all I have learned from the forum and PMs from various members. I don't belive I can say there is anyone here I would not like to meet face to face for talk and possible work together on a case. I admit ther was my asking A. Wesler and Gothicfox to not help with the Sowki. This is because I had seen how faithful Goth is to their beliefs and I know I would have misunderstood anything that they said regarding religion in the wrong light. I would be happy to talk to them now about that subject.

I know when my temper will cause problems, as we all should by now, and I will not force some one who is trying to help me have to deal with me being a ass. This is the first steps to trying to resovle the hostility ladies and gentlemen. As adults and professionals in our respected fields we can and should be able to work around issues we have with each other. I am sorry if I am getting holier than thou, not my intention. I have seen a group fall to this and be destroyed by the strife, I do not wish to see the Lazlo Society get any where near that level of problems.

Michael T.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:31 pm
by Gothicfox
Holister wrote:Well, you could start by takin' a nic long walk off a very short peir with that stack of bibles you go spoutin' off from but never read.

Ya know, I never knew they made Religious Rantin's for Dummies. "

Ya want the bikein to stop; well you are leaps and bounds in front of the pack. Ya' went and pissed off KT, me, Robin,
Master Li, Adam, and lord knows who else. So get ya' head out of your ass and just try to act like a team player.


I don't believe in blind conformity just to make people happy. Obviously, I do things a lot differently then yourself. Common sense and all that.

Another thing, I didn't bring up the religion bashing. Holli, people like you started that. And you can go back and see what I said and why I said it. I won't reiterate it here again.

I could care less about Robin who wants to people to notice him by fighting with me for no reason, Li hasn't resolved his lying issues in the previous incidents, and your really are an asshole since KT can't chip in and by the way, we resolved our differences.

Are you saying that was lie too?

You wanted to do this Holli, now deal with it cause I'm not going anywhere.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:00 pm
by Legacy
Hey Michael. Mitch here.

Hey Michael I was wondering if you could tell me more about these thoughts these ideas of peace on the board. They sound all groovy and stuff.

Can I call you Mr. T? You sound all badass like that.

So anyway these ideas you have about just leting things drop and not pursuing fights intrige me and I wanna hear more. It seems liek Im not the only one who cant seem to grasp it.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:02 am
by Holister
Lets see, Robin is icking a fight with you just because he wants attention.

Fact is you picked the fight
with him.

Master Li is a liar.

Fact is what lie. We were all there (but you were in your own little dream world).

Bonus Fact - You went off and attacked everyone with your commentary for no reason then other than to hear yourself talk. We shut you up then, and we will continue to do so.

The Last Incident - You got captured, were almost killed, you payed the price for for going it alone and everyone else is a liar when you try o cover it up. Everybody there knows the truth behind that one.

Fact - You have done nothing but start arguments since your arrival. You have been put on warning at least once that I know of and no telling how many others privately. Is that also a lie set against by the members of this society?

Fact - You and KT settled your disagrrement when? Each time he says that it is over, you are the one to dredge up the past. You refuse to let things go, and constantly crave the attention that being shit stirrer brings.

Simple truth is, enough people here tolerate you because this is a public forum where others are allowed to speak their minds. You don't respect that no matter how much you preach to the contrary. If it were possible, you have been been voted off this sialand months ago. But again, this is a public forum where even the likes of you can rant and we put up with it.

Too many people that I respect would like to see the board bickering and forum arguements come to an end, personally so would I, but you will never allow it to end. If it did, you would be ignored, forgotten, and eventually no longer exist.

As far as I am concerned, you do not exist. You posts will be ignored, and if others who must tolerate you do the same,
hopefully you will just go away.

Have a nice day.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:24 am
by Gothicfox
Right, whose preaching hate now? Same person who started this in the first place.

Holli.

And yes, you did have help getting out of that crypt; by me. Remember, you got hurt, I didn't. If I didn't do anything you wouldn't be here now continue to scare off new people with your primate antics. So if you want to keep bringing it up, I'll keep bring up what reallly happen. Remember, your the one with the weak will, not me. Yes, like Ron, I can go it alone. The only problem is you decided to get in the way and make have to cover your sorry ass.

I am a fighter, I believein what I believe. Can't help if people want to take it the wrong way and get holier-then-thou (something you continue to acccuse me of even though I don't claim a religion; oops, did you miss something in your venom filled tirades?)

Anything else you brought up, go back and look up. I'm not bringing it up here again. Since your trying to hide my previous points in your hissy fit; I'll bring it back up again. Since, after all, sharing ideas is whats going to get my existance removed from the world.

How does your list benefit the society when it possibly means something nasty will be using it to take it apart?

And why do I get the feeling you want to be in charge of it, since your so venomious in attacking me over it?

Hide from me if you want too. I'll still be around on these boards, rather you want it there or not.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:43 am
by Holister
Excuse me, but no one here has preached hate, were addresing that WE DO NOT LIKE YOU. Why?

Because you do nothing except insult, harass, and make degrating comments. When we call you out on them, you're the one who lash out with every lame excuse and half baked attempt to redirect the blame back on us.

You are just a sad individual who lives in his own realty regardless of the facts, and who refuses to see those facts.

You have already destroyed this thread enough. I appologize DarKnight that this has gone as far as it has.

If you want to verbally bash people Gothic, I suggest you start your own thread and then you can be blatantly ignored en masse.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:13 am
by Kolya
And yet you keep responding.

Michael is correct. Just get on with doing your job.

The point of the Society is to share knowledge and help those that ask for it.

Otherwise, keep everything else to yourself - or keep in private.

Get over yourselves and fucking grow up. No one gives a fuck about your childish bickering. It is fucking annoying to see children overrun this place.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:14 am
by Gothicfox
Sorry, I came here to ask a question. The only people attacking me, is you.