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Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:30 pm
by Shang Li
Once Zhuangzi dreamt he was a butterfly, a butterfly flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know he was Zhuangzi. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakable Zhuangzi. But he didn't know if he was Zhuangzi who had dreamt he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was Zhuangzi. Between Zhuangzi and a butterfly there must be some distinction!

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:26 pm
by Hannah
Hi Shang

I had a dream that woke up and stepped out into the real world. It hurt people and tortured people and was killed.

I think what is dream and what is reality is a lot closer together than what many would expect.

Hannah

PS: He's back out there still, I haven't heard from him in ages, and I'm kinda hoping not to . . . but I just know he's going to hurt somebody.


Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:05 am
by Grace
How do you kill a dream?

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:06 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Well if I find him, I plan on use a load of #4 shot.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:30 pm
by Grace
Good to know.

But just out of curiosity, how much is it worth to you to locate this individual?

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:35 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I couldn't put a dollar value on it, if you're wondering. Mostly because I can't afford what it would be worth to me. This freak wears my face and targets my friends and family.

This is one of those things that gets called owning the other fellow a big one, with interest.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:20 am
by Grace
Not all payments need to be in cash, as you're well aware Mr. Caliburn.

I'll keep my eyes open and if I see anything useful, I'll be back in touch.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:49 am
by Ron Caliburn
I appreciate it.

Incidentally it is the one the Secret Handshake was specifically developed against . . . so far it's proved effective in identifying the monster.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:45 pm
by Grace
Any other tells?

Mirror image, hair parted on the wrong side, walks with a limp now?

How about special talents or abilities?

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:58 pm
by Ron Caliburn
He is able to pull people into their own dreams and attack them there. He also seems to have some ability to tap the same power source that my daughter can.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:49 pm
by GhostSpider
He's welcome to pull himself into my dreams. I've got things there that would make him seem like a puppy in comparison. As for how you kill him, well, I have always maintained that Hannah is the only one who can truly destroy him.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:53 pm
by Grace
This tells me about all I need to know.

Namely, I won't be engaging. Dream invasion is just a little too Friday the 13th for me. If I spot him, I'm just going to tell you folks and you can handle him.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:50 am
by Hannah
Hi Nemesis,

I think you're thinkig Nightmare on Elm Street.

Hannah

PS: I wish MJ hadn't made me watch that movie.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:02 pm
by Grace
I never really was much of a horror buff. :(

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:39 pm
by Hannah
Hi Nemesis.

MJ is a real horror buff, whenever we get together for a movie night and it's her pick we end up watching some cheesy horror movie from before we were born. Peter likes movies from the 1980s too . . . though usually he wants to watch some kind of comedy or action films. The comedies are pretty funny but the action movies . . . didn't anyone in Hollywood in the 1980s know how to use a gun properly?

Hannah

PS: I think monster movies show about as much reality about monsters as action movies show about guns.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:07 pm
by Grace
Well, to be fair to Hollywood, their monster movies aren't exactly marketed as documentries, you know?

And I'm afraid that Hollywood has ruined many an action flick for me.

But hey, that still leaves comedies and sci-fi! :D

(Drama is boring!)

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:31 pm
by GhostSpider
SCI-FI RULES!!! :D

Sorry, had to put in my ten cents.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:50 pm
by Hannah
I wish you'd taken your own advice Nemesis.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:14 pm
by Grace
Hannah wrote:I wish you'd taken your own advice Nemesis.


I didn't have anything at stake when I made that assertion.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:59 pm
by Hannah
You still didn't. It was my problem.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:53 am
by Grace
I wonder when you posted this?

I'm sure you've realized what I had at stake by now. If you don't, we'll discuss it later in private.

Hannah's asleep everybody and we're safe for now.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:53 am
by Cybermancer
Shang Li wrote:Once Zhuangzi dreamt he was a butterfly, a butterfly flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know he was Zhuangzi. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakable Zhuangzi. But he didn't know if he was Zhuangzi who had dreamt he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was Zhuangzi. Between Zhuangzi and a butterfly there must be some distinction!


Why must there be a distinction?

Both are merely different facets of the same illusion.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:46 pm
by Hannah
Yes!!!

Thank you.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:00 am
by Cybermancer
Hannah wrote:Yes!!!

Thank you.


I assume you are addressing your impromptu guardian.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:46 pm
by Hannah
No, it was your post.

It gave me an idea.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:49 pm
by Cybermancer
In that case, your welcome.

Care to share?

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:54 pm
by Hannah
Maybe, if it works.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:58 pm
by Cybermancer
I'll be interested in hearing what I inspired in a young mind.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:28 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I would like to know too - especially as she's now gone missing.

Re: Understanding the nature of worlds and veils

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:35 pm
by Cybermancer
I am reminded of the story of Persephone.

Hades, while not death, is asscioated with it. I am also reminded of how Persephone came to be trapped in Hades. A similar condition exists for Hannah and her fiance, yes?

When it comes to these old tales, one realizes that they are merely retellings of the same tale. Repeating, in cycles throughout time.