When or if you need me, just let me know, I’m still willing to help, don’t know much about dream things, but maybe something I can help with will come up, let me know.

As a point this thing doesn't know me as Shadow or Shadowstalker for that matter, and when I talked about Ron I only used his real name, lets just say I was trying to be honest with Rhonda didn't want to start things with a lie or misunderstanding no matter how small. So Ron is right if you see him somewhere you don't expect just ask a few questions you don't get the right answers leave fast.

What about Rhonda? Are we still gonna be able to get her outta there?

KonThaak wrote:What about Rhonda? Are we still gonna be able to get her outta there?

Even if magic and psionics won't work, the martial option still hasn't been fully explored.

There are other plans in the works, my attempt was a bit rushed and there were unknowen factors that came into play, in theory some of those factors are no longer there but it would be wise not to try a second extraction to soon as they are on guard right now.

In that case... Shadow, focus on that dream entity for a while. He should give off a supernatural aura, like he's living magic or something, according to my sources. Should make him easy to find. Or at least easier.

This is true but it doesn't move in only this plane, it also travels in the Dream Stream where it can fade into the background to some degree. This has made fallowing it difficult.

Nasty magic dream spell casting thing? Should be made gone soon then, don’t need any more bad magic things running around then there already are, less would be better even.

Eric makes perfect sense. Well, once you get used to the sentance structure anyhow.

DAMN IT Ron be careful that thing the Nightmare just tried to come after me in my dreams. I have things in place to keep such intrusions out but it made a major effort to get at me it may have gotten some kind of info from me I don't know. Ron I think you should be aware it may be after you now.

Ron if this thing comes after you the same way it came after me you are not going to have your Shotgun. KT any idaes how Ron could protect himself.

Thanks for the offer as for Rhonda we will have to look in on that later, But if you can do something to give Ron an edge in dealing with the nasty going after him it would be welcome.

Shadow/Ron: I've seen Ron in action. If this thing goes after him physically, he shouldn't have any serious problems dealing with it. As for dreams... Ron, buy a book on lucid dreaming and get practicing. After all, they're your dreams, and in them, you are a god. If he wants his shotgun, he's got it. If he wants his shotgun to spit holy fire from the blade of a Seraphim, then any dream demons had better make like a bee and buzz off, 'cuz they'll be screwed otherwise.

Of course, if a dream entity can convince you otherwise, then you can imprison yourself to be as powerless as a newborn in your own dreams, too. So be sure you're confident in your own abilities.

Michael: Hold off on using that. I seriously would hate to see the Ron doppleganger join you, lead you into Rhonda's vicinity, and cause harm to you both. Once this situation has been dealt with...well, talk to Ron. I'm not the one in charge of all of this...just throwing my two cents' in.

KonThaak wrote:Shadow/Ron: I've seen Ron in action. If this thing goes after him physically, he shouldn't have any serious problems dealing with it.

If this thing is a near copy of Ron, isn't it possible that it came out stronger than he?

It is strong but it is not as smart or have Ron's background or experiance.

What I've known for a long time... What any true follower of any form of martial art could tell you, be they melee arts or users of ranged weapons... Physical strength alone isn't what wins fights. Strength spans a wide degree of definitions, including spirit, willpower, ingenuity, and determination, and Ron has a great degree of all of them. Regardless of the supernatural strength this thing probably possesses, Ron has a number of arsenals at his disposal; weapons, traps, intelligence, cunning, and a nice array of friends and allies who are willing to come to his aid at a moment's notice.

Despite what this copycat may think of me, I have a very strong faith that Ron will be fine through all of this... Faith in the powers that be, and, more importantly, faith in Ron, himself.

I don't need my runes to tell me the inevitable outcome if this thing comes back to attack Ron.

Just remember, Ron... If it comes at you in your dreams again, and it starts to get the better of you...tell it to go to whatever hell you believe in, and simply reverse the roles.

It's the most ancient form of "magic" out there, and it's one that any person can do, and any person can prevail with, at least when it comes to copycat monsters like this one.

And the same goes to anyone who comes across this thing. Have faith in yourselves, trust in your own strength, and, as always, approach with caution.

True, but didn't it absorb all of his knowledge in that last attack?

I agree with 99% of what you're saying, but Ron needs the help of someone that thinks and acts differently than himself.

Now there is a scary thought. If it can absorb our knowledge, then it can pretend to be us on the net if it has a physical shape...

CRIPES!

Not really. As has been pointed out (either in this thread or the other one, I'm too lazy to figure out which right now), this thing's got the mentality of a zealot. He most likely wouldn't deign to try to be us.

All things can and will be dealt with. Don't barrow trouble till we know how bad things are.

Bearshaman wrote:Now there is a scary thought. If it can absorb our knowledge, then it can pretend to be us on the net if it has a physical shape...

CRIPES!

That wasn't really what I was worried about.

My point is, that if you know someone well enough you'll always be able to keep ahead of them. Because in the end we all have to be true to ourselves. Even if we try to be eratic our actions can be predicted because there is no true randomness.

Thus, if this Pseudo-Ron really did take everything out of Ron's noggin, then he needs someone that he knows very little about to help him.

Basicly keep it guessing and off balance, sounds like a resonable plan.

Essentially.

I can't help, I give away too much in my AARs (After Action Reports).

i will help if i can. if my joss and rituals cant send back to whence it came, then i merely hope that a physical solution is not outside my grasp. (several of the kami i am accustomed to dealing with live in the dreams of men and get out rarely.)