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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:32 am
by Kolya
I don't care about cigarettes, jeans, and shitty pop culture. We're talking about the military. Which enables Manifest Destiny, which is the heart of how America perceives the world.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:38 am
by Sophoroto
Kolya wrote:I don't care about cigarettes, jeans, and shitty pop culture. We're talking about the military. Which enables Manifest Destiny, which is the heart of how America perceives the world.


Mr. Kolya I was agreeing with you in a sense. Sometimes it is best to let others find their own way rather than force our views of right and wrong down thier throats. We should only show them the paths they have to choose whitch one to take.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:13 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
Am I alone in thinking that the United States should just annex the middle east and create a bunch of new states?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:04 pm
by Kolya
I was reacting to the idea that Russia should be allowed to have military capabilities.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:05 pm
by Kolya
Bert_the_Turtle wrote:Am I alone in thinking that the United States should just annex the middle east and create a bunch of new states?
No, it would be inaccurate to say you are alone in that thinking.

Re-read the 20th and early 21st centuries and see what happens when you annex the Middle East.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:09 pm
by Sophoroto
Shouldn't all governments have the right to keep a millitary? How else are the supposed to protect thier borders from the Russians? :wink: :lol:

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:13 pm
by Kolya
No.

They should just kowtow to Moscow and avoid military conflict altogether. :mrgreen:

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:17 pm
by Sophoroto
Sounds good sign me up. :mrgreen: I think that you may have to take over my teaching though. Got a boathouse

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:29 pm
by Kolya
You are very smart, Soph.

And, yea, we gots lots of boat houses :D

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:39 pm
by Sophoroto
You get to ask Mr. Greydawn if I can though. :D

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:57 pm
by Kolya
I'm pretty sure he would not us give you the tour of Russia by yourself. Maybe if he sent Mr Phillips along as well?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:11 pm
by Sophoroto
Hey I could ask Mr. Phillips since he is the one watching me while Mr. Greydawn is in South America.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:22 pm
by Sophoroto
He said he would have to meet you guys first. :roll:

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:19 pm
by Kolya
Well, Sasha isn't the best ambassador it seems.

We'll swing by the estate.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:36 pm
by Sophoroto
Mr. Sasha was a perfect gentleman while he was here.

Mr. Phillips just said he didn't think Mr. Greydawn would approve without him meeting everyone I would be hanging around with over there.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:38 pm
by Kolya
I will be in touch privately to work out the details of us visiting the estate then.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:42 pm
by Sophoroto
Cool see you guys when you get here.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:48 pm
by Kolya
So it is decided.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:52 pm
by Sophoroto
Yep.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:15 am
by Ron Caliburn
Bert_the_Turtle wrote:Am I alone in thinking that the United States should just annex the middle east and create a bunch of new states?


It's been done - thats how Palestine, Syria, Iraq and Kuwait got created.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:25 am
by Kolya
And a few others.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:57 am
by DarKnyht
Bert_the_Turtle wrote:Am I alone in thinking that the United States should just annex the middle east and create a bunch of new states?


Well, I am starting to think that we just need to get out of there entirely. Unless it directly effects the United States, we should let other countries deal with their own problems. I am starting to think half of our problems if not more in the middle east can be linked to the US interfering with the politics there.

Hell, most of the wars in the 20th and 21st century we have been involved in was because we mettled in other countries affairs.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:45 pm
by Sophoroto
Well from what I have seen on T.V. if we hadn't gone we would probably be paying alot more for gasoline then we are now. Just glad I don't drive yet. Hopefully buy the time I am old enough to drive the electric car will be viable.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:55 pm
by KonThaak
DarKnyht wrote:
Bert_the_Turtle wrote:Am I alone in thinking that the United States should just annex the middle east and create a bunch of new states?


Well, I am starting to think that we just need to get out of there entirely. Unless it directly effects the United States, we should let other countries deal with their own problems. I am starting to think half of our problems if not more in the middle east can be linked to the US interfering with the politics there.

Hell, most of the wars in the 20th and 21st century we have been involved in was because we mettled in other countries affairs.


Preach it!

While I'm not against helping countries that ask for help, the "aid" we have "given" to the middle east in the span of my life has done nothing but cause more and more problems, right up to and including the "just execution" of Saddam Hussein. (I'm not saying the guy was a saint, by any stretch of the imagination, but everything surrounding him from the time before Desert Storm until just now has been nothing but a farce...)

Anyway, that's just my two cents'.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:06 am
by duamerthrax
it makes a lot of sense, konthaak, but we're not the ones who killed him.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:46 pm
by Ron Caliburn
DarKnyht wrote:
Bert_the_Turtle wrote:Am I alone in thinking that the United States should just annex the middle east and create a bunch of new states?


Well, I am starting to think that we just need to get out of there entirely. Unless it directly effects the United States, we should let other countries deal with their own problems. I am starting to think half of our problems if not more in the middle east can be linked to the US interfering with the politics there.

Hell, most of the wars in the 20th and 21st century we have been involved in was because we mettled in other countries affairs.


Or the affairs of the United States were mettled in by other countries.