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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:42 pm
by Natasha
Have to keep him honest. :)

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:43 pm
by GhostSpider
On average, how succesful are you?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:48 pm
by Kolya
Very.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:29 am
by Ron Caliburn
There was definitely a spate of it. Hopefully we've managed to put an end to the most of it.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:00 am
by Hannah
Hi GhostSpider,

Be careful what y'all ask for. It was the nasty thing inside my head gettin' out that caused a lot of trouble.

Hannah

PS: Fortunately he is scared of me. Sissy.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:06 am
by Ron Caliburn
Him being scared of her is somethign I am eternally grateful for . . . no matter how much it puzzles me.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:53 am
by Bert_the_Turtle
Well, Hannah has some odd powers at least, we know that for sure. If you combine that with all the "The one that made it can destroy it" talk it adds up pretty cleanly.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:00 am
by Kei Nakamura
You might want to do some reasearch on Tulpas. The monks of tibet have long believed that given enough focused attention, a thought can become manifest physicly, and eventually take on a life of it's own. They fo however, know ways of dealing with such, and "unbuilding" them.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:03 am
by Bert_the_Turtle
Master Li spoke of that on at least one occasion if I am not mistaken.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:20 am
by Kei Nakamura
It was actually one of the topics that I worked with Mr. Li on when I was studying the possibilities. All of the local temples pointed him out as being the most knowledgeable man they knew of in the country for the subject matter, and at the time I could not fit a trip to Tibet into my research budget.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:23 am
by Bert_the_Turtle
On at least one occasion that I know of he made a, err, doppleganger of himself.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:34 am
by Kei Nakamura
An exact duplicate? Or a portion of his thoughts and emotions given it's own form?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:38 am
by Bert_the_Turtle
The second thing. It went around and tried teleporting us all to the scene of an emergency.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:39 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Tulpas or whatever, we do need to permanty take care of Not Me at some point.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:00 pm
by Kolya
Yea, no kidding. Soone rthe better.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:19 pm
by GhostSpider
Well Ron, I have a suggestion on containing, if not outright destroying, Not You.

As you know I've been documenting the wierd stuff that's been happening to me lately. One of those things is knowledge popping into my head that is not mine. A great deal of that knowledge has dealt with circle magic. Several circles in particular, I think, could hold the key to defeating Not You.

There is a problem however. I'd need Hannah's help. As the one who created him, she has a link with him. If she summoned him using one of my circles, he would be unable to resist. Once caught within a circle, he would be powerless and trapped. We could find a way to deal with him then.

Like I said, this is only a suggestion.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:07 am
by Ron Caliburn
Do you think she could actually summon him?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:48 am
by GhostSpider
Yes, most definetely. I can make the circle, all she would have to do would be to speak the power words with conviction. And somehow, I don't think that will be a problem for Hannah.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:50 am
by Ron Caliburn
Maybe, maybe not.

I doubt she would want to take part in anything that smacked of ritual magic for quite some time yet.

I doubt I will ever want her to participate in ritual magic you know because there's an evil entity coaching you.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:55 am
by GhostSpider
First off, there is no evidence i'm getting coached by any evil entities. The knowledge just pops into my head.

Second, the summoning ritual for a spirit is clean, no sacrifices or anything. I could do it myself, but with Hannah's help we're guaranteed success.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:58 am
by Ron Caliburn
So where did the knowledge origionate?

How does Hannah garuntee success?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:03 am
by GhostSpider
Umm, I don't know. :?

Damn, maybe Belladrox is coaching me.

Hannah guarantees success because she has a strong mystic link with Not You. She brought him into this world through an act of her will. Having her summon him would be like knowing his True Name, he just couldn't resist her summon.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:06 am
by Ron Caliburn
Yeah, that's what I'm worried about.

Would you want someone you cared about standing in the midst of a magic ritual that was set up by someone who got their instructions from Belladrox?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:10 am
by GhostSpider
It doesn't work like that Ron.

Still, if your that worried, I could try it myself, but I don't know enough about Not You to have a great chance at success. Now if you were to give me your True Name...but you wouldn't go for that either.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:14 am
by Ron Caliburn
How do you know it doesn't? All your knowledge about this could be a plant from Belladrox.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:24 am
by GhostSpider
If it would make you feel any better, I could make a protection ward for Hannah. Diabolism is something that I have learned myself.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:27 am
by Bert_the_Turtle
Which goes back to the original argument. "How do you know its a protection ward?"

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:28 am
by Ron Caliburn
Again, how do we know that knowledge isn't compromised?

Do you know how much stuff Not Me did inside my head? I was at the point I was advising peopel to shoot me on sight as a precautionary measure.

Until we can be absolutely sure you are clean . . . you are a potential danger.

Once you're clean, if you still have the knowledge, we might try this.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:29 am
by GhostSpider
Because it's knowledge I learned, before the ritual at the warehouse. Hell, I've got books and notes on it.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:34 am
by Ron Caliburn
You learned it before, that doesn't mean it wasn't edited since.