Actually caliburn, I was thinking that launcher Nemesis linked could do quite a few of the jobs that RPG-7's are used for at considerably shorter ranges with considerably less colateral damage. I was hoping you could remove it's existing sights and ergonomics so that the barrel of the firearm portion could be live while hidden up a sleeve. It struck me as being a possibly handy alternative to a rocket launcher in an urban environment, where you have to admit, armored vehicles are decidedly rare.

For the holdouts, I was serious when I said use your best judgment and just set it up for the best impact force you can get me. I'll be trying for eyesockets, wrists, elbows, ect in that situation anyway. Ror one of em, dont worry about the recoil too much, the prosthetic doesn't hurt - wouldn't be the first one I've mangled on the job either.

If your papered for em, I can see to it that a few become available. If your not I can still see to it a few of the inert training rounds become available.

Thanks for putting me on to those frag - 12s, should do decent for the situations I was looking at that launcher for, especially since for urban issues we normally have several shotguns on hand already.

And Caliburn, it'll take me some time to procure, but I'll try to get you said launcher to work from, no promises on the grenade for it, probably have to find a training blank.

I can get you a 25MM training round without issues. If you have the papers, I might be able to get you a live round or two, through the gentleman I mentioned to you before.

If I include a schematic of the housing for the electronics, thing you could set up a detatchable mount? I'm pretty sure my position cant go as far as getting you the electronics themselves.

I do indeed have that clearance, Caliburn. However, not all of my needs are available off the shelf, Weight and chamber pressure I can get you, nothing all that classified there.

Yea Caliburn, the electronics are bulky, but air burst is nifty enough to be worth the loss of concealment if its really needed, especially if it's an option, not somethin fused to the platform.

Well Caliburn, I can't exactly get away with tights and a bunch of outlandish gear strapped to my body. The tights clash with my shades, and the bulky gear clashes with my suit. Actually, you've been doing excelently at filling my needs for items that I can't get through requisitions, either through my not knowing the platform is already available, or when the available platforms don't fill my needs. That and them pricks over at the CIA take great pains not to share their toys with anyone.

Logan wrote:Oh and lets just say meeting a few ladies like yourself has had me in the habit of keeping "protection" handy if not on at all times.

Realisticly, doll, if that thing gets within 10 feet of me, I'm probably already snatched unless it's hands are full.

Okay, I'll let the 'protection' comment slide.

But did you just call me doll?

I've shot people in the face for less.

Don't worry, I won't take it personal, I've been shot for less, that's why it's a habit to wear at least class 3 "protection"

And sorry, but your just to attractive to call bub.

I won't shoot you in the face this time but you can always call me "Nemesis" here on the boards. If you're real lucky, I might even let you use my name.

Caliburn, can I get an update on the custom hardware?

My budget person already thinks I need my head examined, but I still get comped for work equipment that I say is needed.

If you can deliver the 25MM by the 20'th, you and your suppliers can literally name your price - and we can worry about the mount later.

I'm picking up the shotguns and frag 12's on your advice anyhow, but would be nice to have the 25MM - the guys in the armsroom say they have a heat round for it that should make anything with a thinner skin than a Bradly take notice.

Persue both avenues, if you would. I'd rather shell for extra than risk doing without.

Some testing rounds should be there soon, there was an issue with some of the higher ups about the delivery, had to use an approved courier or some such. Fortunately, I was able to finagle thre inert training rounds. I have been assured that the rounds are identical to the live ones in all respects other than the lack of electronics and explosives. At least they gave me that much when I offered to just go straight to the original designer.

I appreciate the hell out of the hard work, it means more than I can say.

No doubt a little late, but this might be of interest.

When employing a tool, it is vital to first know what it is designed to do. In the case of this tool, when used to break open doors, survival of those on the other side is not a desirable outcome.

When I brought it up however, I was suggesting that the tool might also be adopted to deliver the sort of knockdown that Logan was looking for.

I assumed your fathers recent absence from the boards was more a general summer absence of the boards. It being summer and all, a lot of people are busy with alternate activities. I know I took a 'sabatical' of my own to visit with my daughters and extended family. But it's back to work for me.