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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:57 pm
by duamerthrax
so what, i'm evil? i thought i was just being played with, now i'm evil too?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:19 am
by KonThaak
"Good" and "evil" are all in the eye of the beholder, man... It most likely wasn't *you* they were reacting to... Tori did say there was something "very off" about you, but she "couldn't put her finger on it"... That would certainly define what was going on around you at that point in time.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:30 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Evil is as evil does.

But evil isn't always an ignorant act.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:38 pm
by Kolya
Evil in humans is almost always a choice.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:59 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Or a lack of a choice.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:20 pm
by Kolya
Choice is the worst kind. That leads to lack of choice.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:46 am
by Ron Caliburn
Huh? I know your english is better than that Koy.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:34 am
by Kolya
Some choose an evil path. They find young and impressionable protoges.

It is a nature/nuture situation.

You raise a pit bull to be a fighter, it's going to be a fighter, despite its nature to be a dog.

The worst kind of human is the kind that nutures evil in other humans. Those that have evil nutured in them still need to be put down, but I have 1 degree of sympathy because I know exactly how they got to be where they are.

Still. Without mental derangment or other special extenuating circumstances, we are in control of our choices.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:04 pm
by Eilonwy Solstice
Kolya wrote:Still. Without mental derangment or other special extenuating circumstances, we are in control of our choices.

Even with that in mind, many still have choices. They are just predisposed in a certain way. It is rare when someone has truly lost their agency. And horrible.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:10 pm
by Kolya
I agree wholeheartedly.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:48 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Some do evil because they have yet to make a choice.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:04 pm
by Eilonwy Solstice
Ron Caliburn wrote:Some do evil because they have yet to make a choice.

I believe the saying is something to the effect of, “The only thing for Evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.” Very true words.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:11 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Yes it is.

You also see it a lot around in the blight. The kids here grow up with violence and drgs, so they never question, never think that there is any other way, so they never make a choice about what they are going to do with their lives ... usually they end up bleeding out in the gutter before 25.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:15 pm
by Eilonwy Solstice
Ron Caliburn wrote:Yes it is.

You also see it a lot around in the blight. The kids here grow up with violence and drgs, so they never question, never think that there is any other way, so they never make a choice about what they are going to do with their lives ... usually they end up bleeding out in the gutter before 25.

You go into the Blight for one reason . . . I’ll probably go in for another.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:19 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I'd feel better if you didn't go in at all.

You make a very obvious target there.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:43 pm
by Kolya
Whereever you go, don't get lost.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:01 pm
by Eilonwy Solstice
Ron Caliburn wrote:I'd feel better if you didn't go in at all.

You make a very obvious target there.

Well, there is that of course . . . but I can’t ignore the fact that few people are trying to help them as it is, Ron.
Kolya wrote:Whereever you go, don't get lost.

Obviously, I’d keep my cellphone handy, Kolya. No worries there.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:31 pm
by Kolya
I never go anywhere without someone knowing where I am going and when I anticipate returning. Suggest (again) you do the same.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:03 pm
by Eilonwy Solstice
Very well. I normally try to do that too, but . . . sometimes that doesn’t always work out that way.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:25 pm
by Kolya
Make it work ;)

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:15 pm
by Ron Caliburn
It's a new habit for a few around here.

So far only Hannah seems to have it down - but she almost never goes anywhere without one of us anyway.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:28 pm
by Shadowstalker
Seem like a few people need to fallow Hannah's good example.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:32 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I can't be too detailed though - don't want either of the girls to try to follow me into the Blight.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:37 pm
by Eilonwy Solstice
Ron Caliburn wrote:I can't be too detailed though - don't want either of the girls to try to follow me into the Blight.

We would, you know. If we thought you were getting into something you couldn’t get out of by yourself.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:42 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I don't need the headaches of watching out for you 2 and dealing with whats out there.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:00 pm
by concrete_Angel
Wait, so Ron can't go without you and Hannah, but it's perfectly all right for you to wander off alone in the middle of the night? I'm sensing a strong double-standard coming from your direction.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:11 pm
by Eilonwy Solstice
concrete_Angel wrote:Wait, so Ron can't go without you and Hannah, but it's perfectly all right for you to wander off alone in the middle of the night? I'm sensing a strong double-standard coming from your direction.

I’m sure he would have tried to dissuade me if he had caught me; But generally speaking . . . Ron doesn’t tell me what to do; he only gives me advice.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:17 pm
by Shadowstalker
I don't think anyone here doubts that you are an adult who can make your own choices Eilonwy.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:25 pm
by Ron Caliburn
If I had been home when she left the house the way she did, I definitely would have tried to stop her . . . or at least make sure she dressed.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:28 pm
by duamerthrax
:shock:

there's an image.