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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:07 am
by Bert_the_Turtle
Which if it is provoked to run it can be eliminated by fighter craft. If it stays put we can nuke it. We'll probably want to find a way to keep it from teleporting, that's the only wild card.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:13 am
by Ron Caliburn
Fighter craft? How much stuff are the Russians able of moving over there?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:18 am
by Bert_the_Turtle
Quite frankly, I'd believe it would be foolish of them not to set up a permanent base there including an airfield.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:20 am
by Ron Caliburn
But how big an object can they get through? I'm not sure you noticed, but fighter aircraft are pretty large.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:54 am
by Bert_the_Turtle
Either send them through in pieces, send smaller aircraft, or send fighters with foldable wings like America used on Aircraft Carriers during WW2.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 12:04 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Again, what are the Russians willing and able to send? Not like either of us know.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 12:20 pm
by Kolya
Bert_the_Turtle wrote:There can't be too many innocent people there. We can evacuate them.

Where do we put them if we could evacuate them?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 12:21 pm
by Kolya
Bert_the_Turtle wrote:Which if it is provoked to run it can be eliminated by fighter craft. If it stays put we can nuke it. We'll probably want to find a way to keep it from teleporting, that's the only wild card.
Pinning demons down is difficult. You are exactly right. Maybe a giant anti-magic cloud or one of those disruption generators. Several things we are thinking about.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 12:25 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
Russia is a big country, I'm sure you can find room somewhere.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 12:28 pm
by Kolya
Ron Caliburn wrote:Again, what are the Russians willing and able to send? Not like either of us know.
Everything would have to be sent in pieces unless we can get a bigger portal.

But before that we have to have some infrastructure and logistics in place to cope with that. Like Bert said, an airfield would be a great asset, but building it would take more time than we have. A small airfield, maybe.

We were able to get some fairly small helicopters through. But keeping them fueled and maintained was a bitch.

Fuel, electricity, plumbing, everything necessary for installing, building the aircraft, sustaining even a small permanent forward operating base is beyond the scope of this mission. It would be a huge under taking.

That is why we are just keeping a low profile. Much easier to maintain and much less of a target.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 1:16 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
I feel we should at least establish a base for waterborne operations.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 1:30 pm
by Kolya
Boats simplify everything.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 1:33 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
Yeah. Get some Boats and some more DUKWs and we'll be in business! :D

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 1:35 pm
by Kolya
SCUBA Sergei has already begun the beach reconnaissance.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 2:08 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
Who's he?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:20 pm
by Kolya
We got some frogmen reconnoitering the target island and gathering intel regarding composition, slope, and as many factors as we can to help us devise our attack routes and so forth.

"SCUBA Sergei" admittedly does not come off the tongue as well as "SCUBA Steve".

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:27 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
Heh. Just don't ask me to do any swimming.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:37 pm
by Kolya
We will see if a duck is viable locomation for you.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:10 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
Well, I took a course in piloting the thing and it can withstand hurricanes. Soooo, probably.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:15 pm
by Michael T
I am from this world as well and hurricaines are the least of your worries on the seas. There are sea serpents that can drag a large sailing vessel to the ocean floor, things like the frigate that is still in active service with the US navy. And there are dragons that may take interest in the new item on the ocean below, there are more dangers but these are the biggest to be pointed out. If any one would like more information I can be reached through Michael's PM or email. I am not an expert on all of the world but will share what I do know.

Jan

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:15 pm
by Kolya
What is its top speed in the water?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:18 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
Road speed 50 mph, water 6 mph

Its main use is as an amphibious truck shuttling people and supplies between ships and from ship to shore in support of an invasion. So if we load one or more up with supplies when we assault the demon's stronghold our supplies will be able to keep pace with us.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:21 pm
by Kolya
Hm. Yea, we will see what we can go. Getting the big boats in will be pretty difficult, I think. Unless we can find an easy to build up natural harbour type of thing. Which so far we have not.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:23 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
What if we bring in Engineers and construct a pontoon bridge?

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:24 pm
by Michael T
I belive I can help with the harbor, an earth elemental would dig one relitively fast and a water elemental can keep most the water out of the area to allow faster work on the dosks and other need infrastructer. I just got in and am trying to catch up from the last few days of post and buisness.

Michael T

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:40 pm
by Kolya
Sounds like something you and Natasha can check into.

And welcome back. Glad you are still with us! Sounded like you got into some scarey stuff.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:46 pm
by Michael T
I'll post the encounter in War Stories after I get some rest and a few more healing spells cast on myself.

Michael T

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:05 am
by Ron Caliburn
So how permant a pressence do you guys think is the best to go for? It sounds like there is a fair chance anything large might get wiped out before you can bring in a force that could properly defend it.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:25 am
by Bert_the_Turtle
Well, if we bring in sufficient resources we could have a solid defensive base constructed post haste.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:36 am
by Ron Caliburn
If you hadn't noticed, Koyla said it would be exceedingly difficult to do so.

Bert, you should appreciate the value of light, mobile and lethal rather than heavy, static and dead.