Will made me do it.

GhostSpider · Post by **GhostSpider** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:33 pm

I'm with Sophoroto on this one. Huh??

Shadowstalker · Post by **Shadowstalker** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:59 pm

I know what Black Sabath is, (you are talking about the Band right?)
But how does that have anything to do with what was being talked about?

concrete_Angel · Post by **concrete_Angel** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:19 am

GOD, do I have to explain EVERYTHING to you people???

Shad, you said, "Bert just happens to be one of those good examples of Paranoid".

Balck Sabbath, (YES, the band, Shad, DUH!!) fronted by the ever popular Ozzy Osbourne, was famous for their song, Paranoid.

I'm thinking the other eight on the top tem list aren't nearly as interesting.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:27 pm

Sophoroto wrote:There are benevolent entities out there that feed off the ambient energies of emotions that are never noticed because they are causing no harm. Have you ever felt happy and not really know why or started laughing for no apparent reason at all? Some say that it is these entities that bring on those emotions so that they may feed. Just the same as the Gormaglut only they feed and inspire love, happiness and joy.

And I still want them to stay away from me and my daughter - theonly emotions a person should feel are their own, otherwise is a violation of the most personal kind.

GhostSpider · Post by **GhostSpider** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:32 am

So, you dislike all empaths now?

Shadowstalker · Post by **Shadowstalker** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:40 am

That would mean me, and Rain, and a few other members of my team. Thou Particularly me as I can also alter the emotions of others, but as a rule I don't use that talent to often.

concrete_Angel · Post by **concrete_Angel** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:59 am

OOh, I think you just stepped in it with Ron, Shad. Well, you're off his Christmas card list.

Shadowstalker · Post by **Shadowstalker** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:10 am

Oh and do you think I have ever tried to mess with your emtions Angel? Because I haven't.

duamerthrax · Post by **duamerthrax** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:23 am

ok, you know what? that's enough! i am getting a little sick of this whole thing, shadow. people here are keeping themselves armed just in case ghost suddenly turns on them, and here you are openly making claims of abilities which are potentially more dangerous than the ones ghost's admitting to. and let me guess, everyone's just going to side with you because you're just such a darn nice guy?? This is an OPEN FORUM, dude! if i found you guys, anyone can. your little claims don't impress me, especially since they're just making you the biggest target here.

GhostSpider · Post by **GhostSpider** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:26 am

Duam, shove a sock in it.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:35 am

Shadow doesn't use his abillities on people without their permission or a just cause.

From what GS is saying, he automaticlly syphons emmotional energy from everyone for a considerable radius around without their specific permission.

Shadowstalker · Post by **Shadowstalker** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:06 am

Thanks Ron, you too Ghost. I try to not get crazy with my ablities, as I realize they can cause more problems than they could solve, if I did.

James I have been a target for a long time. As there are people out there who either see me as a threat, or as an asset they would like to have control of. Still others think that I must be either a demon, or controled by them. So I have had people out to Kill, Control, or in a few cases Save me for a very long time.

Ron you are right Ghost does not have control of this new ablity of his, but too his credit he has not tried to hide it or lie about it. He doesn't fully understand it, and has asked for help trying to understand it and deal with it. I realize you and a few others are just looking to be ready if it turns out into a worst case situation, but you need to also be ready to deal with a better situation as well. Just my two cents worth on that.

Kei Nakamura · Post by **Kei Nakamura** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:17 pm

Don't bother trying shadowstalker, some people you just can't reach. I have brought what knowledge I could, given aid whenever I was allowed (once), and teh list of those willing to aid me in my research when it was not disturbing was short.

Now that something is big people make a joke of it or accuse me of incompetence.

Ghostspider, I do not condemn you for your ability, but if you like I do have an environment that may help lead to your understanding of it.

DarKnyht · Post by **DarKnyht** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:46 pm

Kei, you helped me a great deal once and I have not forgotten that. In fact the help is sitting in the room next door running most of my systems in the office. It is just distance and financial means keep us from working together more often. When the opportunity arises, I will repay the kindness you have shown.

Ghost, I am not sure if I understand what happened to you, but I owe you also. I also inclined to trust your judgment on this for now. It seems you are aware of the problem and you want to get control of it. But that said if it comes between you and innocents, we might be having this discussion again under less friendly terms. I hope it doesn't come to that. If you think it might please take Kei up on her offer if it is still available.

Ron, you might want to clarify your position there because unfortunately I would be on your list and I believe so would many others. I have empathic abilities of which I have little control over. I just sometimes turn into others feelings. And as others described sometimes I get caught up by them. There is evidence that this is a natural thing and there is a history of mothers feeling what their children feel, twins feeling what the other is, etc.

Bert_the_Turtle · Post by **Bert_the_Turtle** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:30 pm

Now I've offered many times to help you with your research Kei, even going so far as to offer to take you hunting with me. But I often can't take time off from the craziness of dealing with the supernatural to do a long term research project.

concrete_Angel · Post by **concrete_Angel** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:26 pm

THAT'S ENOUGH, ALL OF YOU!!!!!

JAMES-SHUT UP, especially about thngs you don't know jack about, all right?

SHAD- Get your ass back here and deal with him in person, or don't respond at all.

GS- I'LL deal with James, all right?

RON- CHILL OUT!

KEI- I don't exactly appreciate the double standard of having you bash others for straying from YOUR topics, then offering no opinion on the original topic here. Everyone here is a lot more willing to help than you're trying to claim, anyway. Don't use the high-and-mighty road to run over your friends.

Shadowstalker · Post by **Shadowstalker** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:09 pm

I will be back as soon as I can.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:14 pm

DK - do you go around syphoning off people's emmotion for sustinance without their consent? Do you go around messing with people's emmotions for fun?

If no, I'm not worried.

GhostSpider · Post by **GhostSpider** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:00 pm

Well Ron, its not like I can ask everyone around me if I have their permission to feed on their emotional energies.

Shadowstalker · Post by **Shadowstalker** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:10 pm

And as near as I can tell you haven't displayed a talent for effecting people's emotions, beyond your normal methods. (See also acting silly.)

concrete_Angel · Post by **concrete_Angel** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:59 pm

SIMPLE WAY TO CLEAR UP THE ISSUE!!!

GS, when you're "feeding" off of emotions, has ANYONE been affected by it? Does anyone show even the most remote affect?

GhostSpider · Post by **GhostSpider** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:59 am

Nothing that I can see, or sense. Still, this is really a question Shadow and his team should be answering, as they have been around me for awhile now.

concrete_Angel · Post by **concrete_Angel** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:31 am

WELL?? Shad, Rain, you guys want to be the final words in this debate?

Shadowstalker · Post by **Shadowstalker** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:31 am

Sure, but I would only be repeating a statement I have already made.
Basicly that so far as I, and the rest of the people that were with Rain have not noticed anything to indicate any ill effects to any of us. Oh and before anyone asks when there were other people around we had been watching to see if they suffered any effects to Ghost's absorbing their empathic broadcasts. There was no effect on them as far as any of us were able to tell.

DarKnyht · Post by **DarKnyht** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:26 pm

Ron Caliburn wrote:DK - do you go around syphoning off people's emmotion for sustinance without their consent? Do you go around messing with people's emmotions for fun?

If no, I'm not worried.

Well, in the case of one yes. I do occassionally in a way syphon off other's emotions. How else do you explain my sensing and being affected by them.

As for me messing with people's emotions for fun... That depends on what you mean by that. In a psychic way I do not believe so, but I do occasionally play with others emotions. It human nature.

I do agree that psychically manipulating emotions for self-gain is wrong, but if what GS and Shadow are saying is true that is not happening.

As for your friend C_A, if there is outside confirmation of it then there is an entity of some sort tied to you. Whether or not it is a empathic vampire, syphon, or something else would be the question. From my personal experiences I would be very cautious of Will, and my gut instinct would be to get rid of his presence. But my experiences have been vastly different from yours.

KonThaak · Post by **KonThaak** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:24 pm

Regarding Will: The dolls had no problems with him. Neither did my dragons, or other various guardian spirits. It's my professional opinion that he intends her no harm, nor anyone else. Not all entities and spirits are harmful.

Regarding GS: I have been incredibly hesitant to say anything on this matter, aside from that I trust him. I knew an energy vampire who had to learn some level of psychic abilities so he could figure out how to turn off his vampiric abilities... Not all energy/emotional/whatever vampires are harmful, as we can learn from Eilonwy's former incarnation...

I was the one who taught him how to turn off his abilities. He was, in all other respects, a "normal", mundane human being, going to high school, and did not deserve to be condemned for something that was otherwise beyond his control... Once it was in his control, he kept it constantly in check; it was a challenge at first, but he managed.

As a vampire, he was practically harmless, though had more of an effect on those around him than GS seems to have. Before I had even met Celeste, I helped him because he seemed to need the help.

I hesitated to bring it up because I didn't want to be judged the same way GS has been, the same way that Celeste was before she became Eilonwy...

I say we follow the lead of the American justice system... Until it proves itself to need taken care of, we do nothing more than keep an eye on it. Innocent until proven guilty.

GhostSpider · Post by **GhostSpider** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:53 am

I don't think you would have been judged the same way Celeste was and I have been, KT.

concrete_Angel · Post by **concrete_Angel** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:12 pm

Thank you for being the voice of reason, KT.

As for this thread, I started it to find out about my family, and apparently I've gotten more of THAT than I'm really happy with. But I still need to find out where my mom is. Not even my dad knew where she was when I talked to him. I'll still be looking for help in that area. That, and the person who's trying to kill me, might need help with that, too.

GhostSpider · Post by **GhostSpider** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:06 pm

I'm always available, and happy, to kick some ass.

concrete_Angel · Post by **concrete_Angel** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:47 pm

Then you might be very happy, because that ass is going down HARD, GS!!