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Kei Nakamura
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Post by Kei Nakamura »

Looks to me like some form of artificial memory, most likely inserted to set him after killing angel. Question is was the goal angel's death, or his corruption?
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Post by concrete_Angel »

OOO-kay, NOW it just got REALLY scary! Maybe it's best that no one knows where I am right now.
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

That’s all just conjecture, Kei. Just because he has doubts doesn’t mean he’s out to get her. Susan, were you talking about this line of thinking being scary, or something new turning up? Can you talk about it?
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Post by concrete_Angel »

Well, let's see here, some unknown asshat wants me dead for no other reason than I'm here, my dad was murdered by someone who wants people to think it's me, I've already been attacked by Zorak on steroids, and NOW, my own brother is either trying to get me too, or he's insane.

I need a hug.
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Post by Kei Nakamura »

True it is just conjecture, that is why i used "looks to me" and "most likely".

From what I have read angel has been on the scene before, correct?

Angel gets kidnapped and mysteriously vanishes, returning, with a blank period in her memory, correct?

At about the same time she disappears, her brother "remembers" her killing their father?

Even after learning the truth, the memory her brother has just won't go away will it?

The question is, as I said, Why? What is to be gained, and by whom? Answer those questions for me, and I will hand you your father's murderer. As for your brother's recovery, angel, I am not exactly an expert on such, but I believe it can be done.
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

I’m sorry, Susan. Would an electronic one work?

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Post by Kei Nakamura »

I am truely sorry, Ms Angel, I had no intention to cause you such distress.

It looks like I forgot that there are peopel with emotions involved rather than just a series of facts to be dissected and analyzed.

Is there anything I can do to make up for such an oversight?
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Post by concrete_Angel »

Thank you.

1) I hope it can, because the family reunion would just suck if it didn't. (what there is left of the family, anyway)

2) Since we're related, wouldn't it have been easier to just kill James too? (not that I WANT that to happen, just thinking out loud)

3) I just want to know WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH HIM ANYWAY?????
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Post by Sophoroto »

Kei Nakamura wrote:I am truely sorry, Ms Angel, I had no intention to cause you such distress.

It looks like I forgot that there are peopel with emotions involved rather than just a series of facts to be dissected and analyzed.

Is there anything I can do to make up for such an oversight?


Give her a hug!

Oh one question. Why don't you have emotions?
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Post by Kolya »

So she was framed or body snatched?

I cannot think straightly today. I had a really difficult evening.
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Post by concrete_Angel »

Kei, it's all right, I've gotten enough of that treatment with the cops, so I'm used to it now. At least now, I can say I've pretty much cleared my name.

Too much to drink, Kolya? :lol:
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

I wonder if someone could talk to him, get through whatever is holding him. He seems fine when we don’t mention you, Susan. What about it, Duamerthrax? Would you be willing to meet with someone to talk to?
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Post by Kolya »

No.

At least I would understand some things if I had though.
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Post by Kei Nakamura »

Sophoroto, when I let my emotions get involved, most people find me very unpleasant, if not dangerous to be around. As long as i take my medications, and stay relatively detatched I remain in control of myself. When I do not, I become a very angry person, and then things get out of controll.

Angel, how would you react if everytime you thought of your brother a memory of him killing your father flashed through your head? I believe that or something similar is what is up with him.
Yes it would have been easier to kill each of you, but who or what is responsible did not, my instinct tells me that the reason for that is directly related to blowing the whole thing open.





Koyla, framed, yes - body snatched, maybe.
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Post by concrete_Angel »

"You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." :lol:
Sorry, just trying to lighten up the mood.
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Post by Shadowstalker »

Ok I guess I should take a moment and try to explain what is being done about James.

Not long after Angel, and James' eventful reunion. James was still acting a little strange, even with the fact that his world view had just taken a major turn. His emotions were very confused.

I asked him why he was so sure Angel had killed their Father? He said because he had been told she had done it, I asked by who, and tried to Scan his memory at the same time.

It was then that I found the Block, someone had placed the memory and the Idea that Angel had commited the Murder in his mind, and then tried to cement it in place. They also wanted to keep anyone else from meddleing with their tampering.

This was done through the use of Magic of some sort. I was able to break the block, but I had to be careful or I could just as easily have destroyed his mind.

So I took James to see Rose so she could help as she is a little better with these things.

So far we have been able to remove most of the effect, but not all of it. He now knows Angel was not the one who killed their father, and that someone likely the same person who did kill their father had messed with his head.

I don't know how much longer he will be having the little problem he is right now, but he is slowly getting better.
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Post by Eilonwy Solstice »

Shadowstalker wrote:It was then that I found the Block, someone had placed the memory and the Idea that Angel had commited the Murder in his mind, and then tried to cement it in place. They also wanted to keep anyone else from meddleing with their tampering.

This was done through the use of Magic of some sort. I was able to break the block, but I had to be careful or I could just as easily have destroyed his mind.

He now knows Angel was not the one who killed their father, and that someone likely the same person who did kill their father had messed with his head.

So those are the main questions to find out then, aren’t they? Who killed their father, who implanted the memory, who wants Susan out of the way, and why he, she, or they, would want to do all this.

And . . . I hope you did all this with his consent? Is he all right?
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Post by Prof. Rosecrest »

At the moment James is fine. We have been taking our time to deal with the effects of his Brainwashing. That is part of the reason he seems to have a bit of lingering effect going on.
I am affraid Shadow did not get permission from James to try, and help him. But at the time James was not exactly able to think for himself either.
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Post by Kolya »

Which still seems to be the situation, at least marginally.
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Post by duamerthrax »

i feel like i should be insulted. maybe i should install saloon doors in my head, since everyone thinks it's so easy to get in there. i just hope certain areas were left private.

they were, right? you didn't see everything in my head, did you?
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Post by concrete_Angel »

WHAT THE HELL?????

SHADOW, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME ALL THIS BEFORE I LEFT??
Will's sure it was the same person doing all of this stuff, but why the hell is this dude trying to set me up? And what the hell does the psycho-mantis have to do with all of this?
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Post by Ron Caliburn »

Great, more memmory fiddlin'

That reminds me, I need to go kill Not Me.
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Post by Shadowstalker »

Angel I tried to but you were a little distracted.
No James I didn't go wandering around in your mind, I was focusing on dealing with the problem zones in your head.
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Post by Kolya »

concrete_Angel wrote:but why the hell is this dude trying to set me up?
Sounds like someone I know.
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Post by GhostSpider »

That reminds me, I need to go kill Not Me.


Sounds like something you'd put on a sticky note on the fridge.

Reminders:
-Go to the store
-Do inventory
-Kill Nightmare alter ego
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Post by concrete_Angel »

If James has some nightmare alter ego trying to kill me, too, I think I might as well just shoot myself now! I'm dealing with enough stress as it is, thank you!
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Post by Shadowstalker »

No I don't think you are going to have to deal with that as well.
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Post by concrete_Angel »

Let's try NOT to make life worse for me, after all.
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Post by Shadowstalker »

Nope.
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Post by GhostSpider »

There's no need for us to do that. Life can do that all by its lonesome.
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