Weather as a weapon?

PSC27 · Post by **PSC27** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:35 pm

A truly interesting artical...Although, it is possible to control the weather. And not with technology. Mages have been doing it since before Mu or Atlantis were even established. Truly, it must have been technology based to have done that much damage to the Voodoo capital of the US. And there were enough people trying to stop it to at least slow it down somewhat.

http://www.paranormalnews.com/article.a ... cleID=1117

Written By: Doug Yurchey
Posted: 11/20/2005

Could Hurricane Katrina and other Catagory-5 hurricanes have been artificially created? The very idea that someone or some agency did this sounds utterly impossible and crazy to most people. Actually, it seems incredible to those who have never entertained such notions before. To others who know that the weather can be manipulated and the feds are up to no good, then the concept of unnatural weather disasters does not sound so fantastic.

From Scott Stevens’ website Weather Wars.info:

‘It’s as if the entire Gulf Coast were obliterated by the worst kind of weapon you can imagine.’
- President G.W. Bush as he toured Alabama and Mississippi.

‘Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of Electro-Magnetic waves.So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It’s real…’
- Secretary of Defense William Cohen, 1997 Counterterrorism Conference, Athens, Georgia.

Scott Stevens has appeared on CNN with his idea of purposeful weather-manipulation. It is rare that concepts as unconventional as artificial weather or weather being used as a weapon make it on the television news and normal media.

Scott ‘weather-wars’ Stevens praises the work of Tom Bearden. ‘His latest paper is absolutely essential in understanding how this scaler technology works, how long it has been active, who runs it and why finally what it is immediately capable of.’ Bearden describes what kinds of events are planned for the U.S. in the coming years.

The following is an edited excerpt of Bearden’s paper dated 10/13/04. This date precedes the Sri Lankan Tsunami and the Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

‘…The weather engineering against the United States continues today under the rogue Japanese teams on site in Russia…In 2004, we have entered a 2-year final preparation phase. These operations have been intensified and will continue to be intense, wreaking great economic damage. Hurricanes Charlie, Frances, Ivan, Jeanne, etc. have been no exception to the Yakuza weather engineering…which included directly influencing and controlling each hurricane’s power and behavior, as well as directing its course and speed so as to choose its targeting path. Indeed, Ivan did a 180 degree turn; Jeanne did a 360 degree loop before reaching Florida, demonstrating the degree of control available.’

Scott Stevens: As a television weatherman, I first met this information with skepticism, who wouldn’t?...almost completely rejecting the concept that weather-modification, outside of cloud-seeding, is possible. Additional clues kept creeping in…The endgame has arrived, just as the Powers That Be knew it would. My only question is whether it is later or earlier than their anticipation. This planet’s destiny is set…only the details have yet to occur…the possibility of regaining our sovereignty; that issue yet remains to be determined. If humanity only knew that this choice presently exists. The alarm bells are ringing; it is time to wake-up.

On an alternative news agency, an article called ‘Hurricane Katrina – Who Benefits?’ was written by Sherman H. Skolnick. The following is the beginning of that article:

‘Some meteorologists contend there has been weather warfare. That is, they say, that there have been true man-made hurricanes, Ivan [the Terrible], 2004, and Katrina, 2005. And, that these storms were created by technology long known and directed to specific areas. One weatherman asserted that Russia has long claimed they can send extreme weather and turbulence from Siberia targeting the United States. He proclaimed that Russia did that with Ivan…in 2004 and Katrina in 2005.’

‘Conspiracy Planet,’ The Alternative News and History Network (Your Antidote to Media Cartel Propaganda)…contained the article:

Weather Warfare: Was Katrina A Man-Made Hurricane?
by U.S. Air Force

(EDITOR’S NOTE: Was Hurricane Katrina a phenomenon of weather warfare? Was it a test of Pentagon ‘capabilities’? Or is it the continuation of some other covert warfare of heretofore undisclosed factions?)

Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2005.
A Research Paper Presented to Air Force. (August, 1996)

‘In the U.S., weather-modification will likely become a part of national security policy with both domestic and international applications. Our government will pursue such a policy, depending on its interests, at various levels.

In this paper we show that appropriate application of weather-modification can provide battlespace dominance to a degree never before imagined. In the future, such operations will enhance air and space superiority and provide new options for battlespace shaping and battlespace awareness.’

From Fox News.com, September 21, 2005; the story was called:

Out There: Man-Made Hurricanes?

Global warming? Act of God? Nope, says one Idaho weatherman. Hurricane Katrina was a part of a man-made plot against America. Stevens:

‘A battle in the skies is waged daily. Some battles are won and others lost. We yet know not which…For years this massive global project has been underway, but only now is it making it to the forefront of the consciousness of those with curious minds.’

On September 2, 2005, David Icke wrote a newsletter entitled:

TWO WAYS OF READING HURRICANE KATRINA. I GO FOR THE UNNATURAL DISASTER. (the following are exerpts):

Over the decades, weather-modification has developed to an ever advanced potential for controlling patterns and triggering specific events. In terms of earthquakes and hurricanes, they certainly have the means. Nikola Tesla, who invented or discovered radio, television, radar, neon light, alternating current, particle beams, among much else, was able to manipulate the weather in the early part of the 20th Century. [He could make rain, disperse clouds, etc.] He was well known to police in Greenwich Village responding to complaints from terrified neighbors about the lightning bolts originating from the top of his building. [Tesla also artificially created New York’s worse earthquake by a small resonator vibrating the steel support beam of his building. The accumulation of resonance once more caused damage and alerted the police].

The Illuminati plan is to create maximum chaos to instill maximum fear to create a sense of maximum dependency on authority. They want multi-leveled chaos to justify the imposition of marshal law, concentration camps, centralized dictatorship and the Orwellian global state in all its forms.

1997 Popular Mechanics – Modern Battles Will Be Won By Controlling The Weather.

2000 Weather.com - Controlling The Weather.

Boston Globe: Don’t Like The Weather? Change It.

Weather Wars.

Chemtrails. (the undisclosed, unauthorized dispensing of aluminum particles via jet engine contrails to solve global warming).

Chemtrails in Phoenix, Arizona. (Chemtrails stay and remain visible for long periods while normal contrails are only water vapor and disappear quickly).

Hurricane Ivan: Meteorological Firsts.

The 2004 Braziliam Hurricane Anomaly.

Angels Don’t Play This HAARP.

Can Hurricanes Be Used as Weapons of Mass Destruction? If Not, Why Did the United Nations Outlaw Such Practices?
by Michael Shore 9/5/05

What the masses of human beings all over the world have not been told is that it is possible to control and manipulate weather with a technology called ‘scaler energy.’ These energy weapons have other major capabilities that are even more dangerous than atomic weapons. Scaler Weapons could literally destroy the world!

After Tesla died, the U.S. and Russia raced to confiscate all of Tesla’s papers. Within his writings and drawings was the secret of energy technology…unlimited power which could clearly be used to dominate the world if it wound up in the wrong hands.

This amazing technology can also be used to heal people from many diseases, simply and for pennies. It also can be misused to induce disease in masses of people. Human beings are forced to continue to suffer from diseases that can be easily and successfully treated using Tesla’s technology.

Scaler technology can also be used in an evil way and has the potential to cause huge amounts of damage by using the weather as a Weapon of Mass Destruction.

This technology exists now. Laws have tried, in vain, to be passed that say Scaler Weapons cannot be used as a ‘weapon.’ Unfortunately, the U.S., Russia, Japan, etc. have been pursuing the use of advanced energy technology to control the weather.

Paul Hunt, of the Atlantis Bookstore in Burbank, CA., wrote:

We may be dealing with several factors and a complex web of events that led to the U.S. losing one of its largest ports and a big chunk of its oil production. Also, there is the loss of thousands of lives, an estimated 100 billion dollars or more in damages and the complete loss of confidence in FEMA and the Red Cross agencies to respond to our people in time of dire need.

Many researchers are focusing on the real possibility of Weather Warfare in conjunction with global warming. Men like Tom Bearden, Bob Fletcher, Stan Deyo and others have been warning us of this for a long time. Not only is it possible for major governments to possess the ability to create or alter and direct storms, hurricanes, earthquakes and other events…but many are studying the actions of Secret Societies and private groups to do the same.

The research of Ed Haslam has revealed an astonishing example of either outright sabotage or gross incompetence at the height of the Katrina storm. The pumping stations were pumping out thousands of cubic feet per second from the rain soaked City into the canal which would normally carry the water into the lake. A massive blockage at the Hammond Bridge caused the water to back up and then blow out the levee (or it was blown with EXPLOSIVES) and flood the City.

New Orleans is often flooded. For 100 years, the massive pumps have never failed to clear the water. Was this a monstrous act of sabotage, or a terrible act of incompetence? Will the Bush gang ever come clean or even ask the question of what happened? The search goes on for those who are striving for answers.

Locals, Officials Suggested Levees were Intentionally Blown.
by Steve Watson

Could the levees in New Orleans have been intentionally blown out in order to provide the justification for total FEMA federal takeover? The locals certainly think so, yet as usual, the mainstream media is barely picking up on this wave of opinion…(Katrina) was not the monster described. The storm passed through with relatively minor damage.

According to the New York Times, Dr. Shea Penland of the Pontchartrain Institute was surprised because the break (of the levee) was ‘along a section that was just upgraded…it had a vertical concrete wall several feet thick.’

Many locals have come forward to suggest the levees were breached on purpose by the authorities. This scenario is not so crazy as it sounds. The exact same thing has happened before and in the same city. In 1927, the Mississippi River broke its banks in 145 places, depositing 30 feet of water over 27,000 squares miles of land.

The great disaster changed American history. Blacks were driven northward. White business owners pressured the state to DYNAMITE the levees upstream, releasing torrents of water into black areas. Blacks were forced to work on flood relief at gunpoint, like slaves. The above information comes from the book ‘Rising Tide: The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 and how it Changed America’ by John M. Barry. Levees were also intentionally blasted after Hurricane Betsy struck New Orleans in 1965.

There were reports of many EXPLOSIONS HEARD in New Orleans. Officials say they were transformers blowing up. Total Information Analysis has reported a claim by intelligence expert Tom Heneghen that 25 earwitnesses cited explosions immediately BEFORE the levee breach.

This writer has engaged in numerous arguments over the question of WHY? Why would the government, authorities or Secret Societies do this? Besides the idea that this is their secret policy; to cause all the chaos, hardships and bloodshed in the world so those in control remain in control…there is another motive. This was mentioned in Michael Shores article on September 2, 2005:

‘Man-Made Storm’ For Profits?

Tesla’s SCALER technology is being used by the U.S., Russia, Japan, and possibly other countries to create Weather Weapons of Mass Destruction. Since the people have not been made aware of this amazing technology, the individuals (the Illuminati) who control the world’s major governments can use Scaler technology ‘for profit’ without being detected by over 6 billion humans on Earth. What you hear being broadcasted over the airwaves after Katrina is that the price of oil is going to go way UP. The hurricane is being blamed for the much higher prices of oil that is about to take place…It is no accident that Bush, Cheney, Rice, etc. all happen to be connected to the Saudis and the oil conglomerates. The Afghani and Iraqi wars are all about TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF OIL in those regions. The Illuminati and their government agents, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Putin, Sharon, etc. all play their roles in their hideous agenda of total control of this planet. They do not care or have any compassion for the general public. The Bush gang stands to benefit financially from Hurricane Katrina to the tune of hundreds of billions and over the long term, trillions of dollars. They will receive large contracts to rebuild New Orleans and surrounding areas. They will exploit this tragedy and be able to buy the devastated property for pennies. Their banks will receive huge amounts of interest on loans…This horrific and insane ‘destroy and rebuild’ plan FOR PROFIT was used in WW1, WW2 and is currently being used in Iraq…

People should WAKE UP to what is happening all around them. What is truly going on behind the scenes? What is the REAL story that television, newspapers and the usual media will never expose? This writer wrote an article called ‘The Artificial World We Live In.’ Many things we assume are natural are, in truth, unnatural.

Why did Rita, the most powerful storm ever recorded, occur immediately after Katrina? Maybe to give the public the false sense that these are merely natural events? See, this sort of thing happens all of the time; very normal. Even Hurricane Wilma seemed to make a 300 degree turn. It was, no doubt, directed to do so with a push of a button or the pull of a lever.

‘Weather’ seems to be the hot topic today. CBS has produced a TV-movie called ‘Category 7.’ Nicolas Cage’s new film is ‘The Weatherman.’ The National Geographic Channel just aired ‘Inside Katrina.’ This is not the inside story of what really happened. It is a watered-down (excuse the pun) special programming us with THEIR version of events. Do not believe that this is the only story. The NGC is a network that routinely criticizes the paranormal, ESP, UFOs and is blatant propaganda for the Powers That Be. Remember…this network also aired ‘Inside 911’ which was total lies broadcasted to the American people. [Watch for Doug Yurchey’s coming article: ‘The Great 911 Majic Trick.’]

Haven’t we seen this all before? After September 11, 2001, there was old man Bush and Bill Clinton appearing for the relief efforts. (We have a one-party system in this country, not 2). Here again, the past presidents are lined up because they care so damn much. Once again, there are concerts and (controlled) celebrities with their assistance after a terrible crisis. When are the people going to wake up to the truth?

Huge amounts of money have been given to aid the victims of the hurricanes: much more than what was given after the Sri Lanka Tsunami; more than what was contributed for the 911 families or in the efforts to help with WW2. Never has there been such a flow of finance because of the Gulf hurricanes. The Red Cross and FEMA are not the wonderful organizations we are programmed to believe. Corruption is everywhere. It was very surprising to hear (on the news) that contributions and aid were NOT going to where they were supposed to go.

What is HAARP? This stands for High frequency Active Auroral Research Program. Dan Eden’s website is called ‘Weapons of Total Destruction.’ He writes: ‘It is a technically difficult program to discus with non-scientists and, as such, it has eluded the spotlight of the popular press. In addition, HAARP has been maintained partially as a clandestine project, operated by the U.S. Navy. The information that is made available to the public is carefully worded to make HAARP appear as a bland, harmless, unclassified, atmospheric research facility.’

On HAARP’s home page of its website, the first thing we read after the title is a memorial to 911. There is a flag and near it says: ‘We are united. We are resolved. We will not forget.’ Obviously, this is a clue to the evil behind it.

‘The official HAARP facility is located in Gakuna, Alaska. The site consists of a collection of antennae, arranged in a computer-controlled grid, known as a phased array.’ A phased array has the ability to focus radio signals in a precise direction…’

Long ago, Nikola Tesla was intensely disturbed when they made an ‘electric chair’ out of his beautiful AC Current invention. ‘Radio Waves’ could be used to power the planet with wireless electricity. Instead of changing the world for the better and using Tesla patents to give us FREE ENERGY…governments have perverted radio waves to cause Weather Wars. Tesla would also be beyond revulsion to learn the feds have covertly twisted his concepts for the purpose of mass destruction.

An article by Ed Strong is entitled: HAARP: The U.S. has Climate-Change Weapon [Did it cause Katrina?]

‘This United Nations-banned weapon system can trigger hurricanes, earthquakes and tsunamis.’

It is not outrageous to believe that last year’s tsunami was artificially made.
Would the government of the United States actually have unleashed this incredibly destructive technology on its own citizens? The vast majority of people would not think so. Yet, most people are completely influenced by their televisions and newspapers. The media is like a commercial for the U.S. A commercial never criticizes or brings out the bad points of the manufacturer who is paying all the bills.

Edward R. Murrow said: ‘We should never confuse dissent with disloyalty.’

This is the country that created the AIDS virus and distributed it among the ‘disposable’ people. This is the country that blew up its own federal building in Oklahoma City and blamed it on a bogus fertilizer bomb. This is the country that conned the world by crashing its own CIA, remote-controlled planes into the WTC to begin a war for oil. FYI: The planes that struck the towers were not the ones that took off that day and a missile (not a passenger plane) hit the Pentagon. Please keep an open mind and try to see through the federal lies.

This writer told Scott Stevens, through e-mails, that it is not Russia or Japan doing all this horrible damage and creating these new Weather Wars. It is not just the United States that is to blame. The guilty parties are the ones who have ALWAYS caused needless chaos and wars: They are the Secret Societies. It is a global conspiracy; it is England and the Vatican; it is the richest and most powerful people on Earth behind the evil.

This is the country that is a proud member of a Secret World Government. We remain under the fascist rule of Britain and the Vatican (Church and State). Learn of Secret Societies. Break from the media programming that affects all of us like a disease. Go to controversial conspiracy-type websites and learn. Open your eyes. Read books that question the status quo. Learn of the secrets that have been kept from you. Discover the truth; you never will over the television news and documentaries. Research alternative sources of information.

One alternative source is to listen to ‘The Power Hour with Joyce and Dave.’ Look them up; they have many affiliates. Search through their archives on their website and LISTEN. You will hear a totally different point of view than the brainwashing we are so familiar with.

At the Atlantis Bookstore in Burbank, CA…it was shocking to see how many books, videos, tapes and documentaries there are concerning the Big 911 Lie and the artificialness of Hurricane Katrina. But, they are UNDERGROUND. This was information not told to the public over the media. Before you criticize…hear the evidence, find out the arguments of the other side and make up your own mind…

AdamaGeist · Post by **AdamaGeist** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:11 pm

This is, yet again, solid proof that yes, you can be TOO Paranoid.

It's interesting to note that the actual issue of concern (Weather control as a weapon, somthing I've personaly found to be very usefull) is before long tied into a long series of people speculating that the government has weather control machines and are actively using them to attack areas. The only problem to their paranoid concerns is that there is actualy no technological way to actualy DO that. The laws of physics do not allow for such an action to be made, for someone to remotely manipulate wind forces. As it is, it's well beyond present level technology to create full-force Lightning. To manipulate a hurricane is quite rediculous.

To be honest, this is little more than people trying to put a face onto a force that is completely beyond normal comprehension. Freak wind effects are actualy quite common, and always have been. A change in pressure nearby and a wind will suddenly bend ninty degrees and blow streight into a wall. A slight buildup of obstructions on the ground can create massive dustdevils in the right conditions.

Manipulating the weather is somthing most people's actual ability to even conceptualise. Do any of you even understand the massive forces inherant to a hurricane, or know why the dead-air Eye is generated in the center of one?

But the final paragraphs was all I realy needed to read to be able to discount this entire missive... Because it's all linked to the paranoid conspiricy underground. I find it unbeliveably amusing that some people cannot belive that a Muslim terrorist organisation would prepare to use planes as suicide bombs, like the Japanesse did during World War Two, but can belive that the plane impacts during September Eleventh were part of a massive US Government conspiracy to get us into war.

What's next, that the moon landing was faked? Or would you rather belive that astronauts actualy saw many UFO's while up on and around the moon? (They are quoted as having clamed such, even Buzz Aldren.)

Pick and choose your paranoia as you see fit, but do yourself a favor and check Science before you jump on any one theory.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:28 pm

A few dozen cosnpiracy theories collided into one big jumbled mess there, but I have a few points:

1) If the Ruskies (or aanybody else) developed a weather manipulation device (which would be gigantic and easily found) and used said dddddevice to attack the USA with a hurricane - well that is an attack with a weapon of Mass Destruction - and the rest of the world knows what will happen to you if you attack America with a weapon of mass destruction. The Ruskies - or anybody else who could afford to make somethign like this - are too smart to use ti.

2) If some conspiracy theorists have access to information pointing out that such a weather manipulatuion device was in Russia - what makes one think that the US government isn't aware of it as well. Pre-emptive actions or counter attacks will allready have been planned and readied for execution.

3) If the wounds of Katrina and Ivan are inded self inflicted by the US government - the size and totality of the conspiracy to pull that off would again be quite immense. All it owuld take is one mole or one change of heart in the several thousand people involved and the whole house of cards comes falling down. I find it unlikely that such a conspiracy could have survived this long.

AdamaGeist · Post by **AdamaGeist** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:40 pm

I hate to get into a rut, but I forgot to mention this...

If the government doesn't want this information to get out, why don't they use their weather machines to destroy the places that distribute this information? Use those Magic Bullets to kill the people spreading the information? Or just simply hire some gang members to go firebomb a few places, paying them in the drug made to replace the Crack the FBI and CIA created in the first place?

If the government doesn't want you to spread this information, why are you still alive?

KonThaak · Post by **KonThaak** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:53 pm

I do solidly believe the government (at the very least) KNEW about 9/11 before it happened. There were too many reports made by government agencies and by individuals to government agencies that something was going on for them not to have known. Whether or not our government actually orchestrated the events of that horrible day...I don't know. Nor do I care. The fact that they knew alone and did nothing to stop it is as bad as having done it themselves.

However, to turn around and blame Katrina (or any of the other hurricanes) on the government is ludicrous. They had nothing to gain, really, and besides which, it's right on the beaches of the Gulf of Mexico. They get hurricanes. The people who live there know the risks; I used to live in Texas, and I even visited good ol' Nahlins for a time. They know full well the precariousness of the place they live. They choose to live there for a wide range of reasons, from that they have nowhere else to live on up to that their families have lived there for generations.

As a druid, I have done simple weather manipulations before. It's not terribly hard to raise or lower local temperatures, or to make storms disperse hours before their time. Generating storms from nothing takes a great deal more effort, and even then, usually don't amount to anything more than a few mild showers. To get something the size of a hurricane would probably require a large number of people in a fairly complex ritual...and while that in itself is neither improbable nor far-fetched (considering the number of voodooists down in the area), I very seriously doubt that the voodooists would've called a hurricane that big into their own city.

As for the Yakuza operating in Russia...that, in and of itself, is absurd. The Yakuza are the Japanese mafia, and operate under much the same principles of the Italian mafia. That means that, despite the bad press they get, they *do* have a sense of honor, and would under no circumstance level a weapon of mass destruction against anyone, for any reason. They operate on a far more personal basis...

As for Russia herself, that would've required that the hurricanes striking the US would've come from the west coast rather than the east, or that the Russians had a large number of psychics and arcanists in the area. I just don't see the possibility of getting that big of a storm cell across the entire country any other way...

There were too many other overly paranoid theories to contest, but these were the ones I felt needed addressing...

DevilNuts · Post by **DevilNuts** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:55 pm

if there is such a weapon (or magical hooyah) then it is definitely NOT contained to just the US.

youre leaving out:

* the tsunami in december '04 that nearly wiped out Sri Lanka
* the Eathquake in Pakistan in late '05/early '06
* the mudslide in the southern province of Leyte, Philippines earlier this year.

all of these events could have been caused by the weather. the mudslide was caused by 2 weeks of concentrated rain, and i was actually there for the relief efforts and saw the aftermath. there was only a small piece of the mountain that had fallen, only enough to target and wipe out one small village of about 2500. if you ask me, that is a hell of a coincidence.

KonThaak · Post by **KonThaak** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:11 pm

Not really... Things like that happen all the time.

Just because something seems farfetched doesn't mean it's not a coincidence. Who's to say that people from the village didn't often go scaling that mountain, weakening the ground just enough for that to happen?

I'm not saying that none of these could've possibly been magical (or otherwise) attacks. I am saying that to jump to the conclusion that these are magical attacks simply because they seem a bit farfetched to be coincidental is the prime example of why we don't believe in the extremist paranoia that made up the article that started this thread.

DevilNuts · Post by **DevilNuts** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:00 pm

fair enough. but take a look at this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/ ... dslide.jpg

that seems a bit too tidy and neat to have occurred naturally. the rest of the mountain is intact, and that one little piece falls off, just barely enough to wipe out a village?

i dont know much about these things, but the odds of that happening are rediculous.

AdamaGeist · Post by **AdamaGeist** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:58 pm

1) Why would anyone waste the time destroying said vilage? Even as a test, it's rather a useless one, as precision testing is better done in areas that are without human habitation. It's easier to freely record data in unmonitored areas.

2) The odds of any single person being born are far greater than the odds that a large Mountain-Break Stormfront causing a massive landslide. I find your existance to be too rediculous a coincidence to belive. You were created in a vat by the government!

PSC27 · Post by **PSC27** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:56 pm

KonThaak,

My bloody point was that with so many practitioners of Voodoo there ... how could it have happened at all, except by a machine? That was my exact point of posting this crap. I do not support any of the claims stated, other than you that the storms were man made.

AdamaGeist,

Now who's getting too paranoid??? :lol:

Ron,

Come with me to Texas, to speak to the former high priestess...you speak redneck, I bloody well don't. I insulted a man not to long ago by calling, just by calling him a yank. PM me for time.

KonThaak · Post by **KonThaak** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:59 am

PSC27 wrote:KonThaak,

My bloody point was that with so many practitioners of Voodoo there ... how could it have happened at all, except by a machine? That was my exact point of posting this crap. I do not support any of the claims stated, other than you that the storms were man made.

I apologize, I only responded to the article...

Just because there're a large number of arcanists in the area, though, doesn't mean that they're going to be able to prevent something the size of a hurricane. Just like creating something that size, preventing something that size is incredibly difficult, and would take a great number of the local arcanists working together. By itself, that sounds fairly easy.

Unfortunately, the problem here is that, just like creating storms, preventing storms requires that the storms be within range...and by the time a hurricane the size of this one is really in range to pull off that kind of a ritual, it's already pretty much too late. The destructive forces that have moved ahead of the hurricane are already so great that it's nigh-unto impossible to be above ground and outside, let alone performing a complex ritual in a group.

Hurricanes of this magnitude do happen in nature, and when they do happen, the best we can do is just get out of the way...

As for machines...I agree with Adama. I don't think the technology exists to create a storm of this, or any, magnitude. The only possible exception to that would be incredibly powerful psionic mechanisms, or techno-magics, designed specifically to create and strengthen storms...and even then, you'd probably need to use quite a few of them to get that kind of power.

That's all I'm saying...

PSC27 · Post by **PSC27** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:30 am

KonThaak wrote:I apologize, I only responded to the article...

Just because there're a large number of arcanists in the area, though, doesn't mean that they're going to be able to prevent something the size of a hurricane. Just like creating something that size, preventing something that size is incredibly difficult, and would take a great number of the local arcanists working together. By itself, that sounds fairly easy.

Unfortunately, the problem here is that, just like creating storms, preventing storms requires that the storms be within range.

With every practitioner that was there the range and magnatude was times for everyone there.

There's a lot of difference between spirital magick and the magick that Jonathen and I do. I am not very aquanted with the druidatic system. So I am not saying that it's not related to the spirital relm. For magick to exist you, the practitioners, must believe rather it's in the power that is magick or in higher beings to bring things about. Prayer is the oldest form of magick.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:47 am

I ain't much of a one for magic - I understand if you want somethign hard enough you just maight make it happen - but I'd rather put the effort in with my own two hands - they've never let me down.

Anyway, I'm sending this from a Truck stop. I'm on my way to Texas to help PSC27 out with the locals

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:28 am

I've made contact with Mr. 27.

I usually don't comment like this about somebody, but I told him this to his face first, so he knows I'm not just gabbing about him behind his back.

The guy looks rough - real rough. There's something eating away at him inside. I volunteer at a nearby vetran's centre - I see the same look on the faces of the guys who've had a leg blow off or are keeping their bodily wastes in a bag or will never be intimate with a woman again. They've lost a part of them that's made them a man. A part that's made them human.

PSC27 is like that, and it worries me. I don't think he cares if he exists or not. Something took a big bite out of his soul when it put him in that wheelchair. I think the reason he's out here in the field instead of back at his desk is because he wants to die like a man if he can't live like one.

That's dangerous, and I've told him so.

But I'm still going to have his back during this whole Texas adventure.

KonThaak · Post by **KonThaak** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:58 am

I wish you both the best of luck...

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:18 am

He's working on setting up the face to face now.

Last night I ahd to bail him out big time. He was describing England's immigration problems to me in a bar last night. He didn't notice that the bar was full of latinos and forgot that we were in Texas.

Not that he said anythign mean spirited or racist - but if you overheard only parts of what he was saying - well it's understandable that those fellows got upset.

My spanish isn't too good and neither was their english. Fortunately I was able to come to an understanding with the fellows before things got too bad.

Showing that you're packing is a universal sign language.

KonThaak · Post by **KonThaak** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:03 pm

Be careful, Ron. I grew up around those parts. Most everyone down there is packing something or other.

And some of them don't particularly care what *you're* packing, if they think they can draw faster...

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:53 am

I know, but 95% of the time it has a deterrant value, and the other 5% things were out of control anyway so you might as well draw.

Anyway, we've got a meeting tonight and hopefully we can get this buisness concluded before I do ahev to draw.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:08 pm

So much for happy endings. The details of our meeting can be found here.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:12 am

It all seems so long ago. Things all started to turn wrong when PSC died.

Anybody besides me wonder if this device was responsible for the strange weather that's been going on lately?

Shadowstalker · Post by **Shadowstalker** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:15 am

Yeah I had been wondering about that?

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:18 am

FC disappeared right after he broke the cover story I gave about the Laptop. I'm worried that we lost a lot of good information and a couple of good folks.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:26 am

maybe he left copies somewhere?

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:29 am

If he did, I suspect they might be back in Jolly Ol'.

Maybe Pendragon could do some looking when he's there next.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:43 am

Definitely worth having a look..

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:47 am

If we found something.

I also have FC's last known addres.

KonThaak · Post by **KonThaak** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:12 am

If you're talking about the intense cold, and winter storms, they've been anticipated... It's been anticipated since about October that this winter would be a killing winter...

Bert_the_Turtle · Post by **Bert_the_Turtle** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:13 am

In my area (well, the area I call home anyway, not that I've spent much time there lately) the winter has been following the Farmer's Almanac pretty closely.

Natasha · Post by **Natasha** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:15 am

Winter in Petersburg was very strange for a bit anyway - warm, not much snow.

Almost not had snow for New Year (most important day of the year!) Often there is snow on the ground from October to March.

But it cold now, sure.

Ron Caliburn · Post by **Ron Caliburn** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:22 am

Yeah, but some of those places now under several feet of snow had their first white christmas in decades this winter. Meanwhil;e parts of Arizona and New Mexico had a couple of feet of snow in December.

Killer tornadoes in Florida in January.

Crops freezing in California.

It's not normal.