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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:43 pm
by concrete_Angel
Uh, and HOW is this NOT covered under the "keep your hide safe and keep others from getting killed" policy? Ron, don't tell me that if there was some unknown threat across the ocean, you'd jump to help those people instead of fighting something that was targeting Hannah. Idealism and noblest intentions would have you leaving the country, but I KNOW you'd do everything to protect your girl.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:44 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I'd find the way to do both as best I could.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:48 pm
by KonThaak
Angel, Ron's doing the best he can with what he's got... Let him keep his justifications.

As it is, things like the situation you just described already tend to bug him... Let him be to do his thing.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:01 am
by Ron Caliburn
Hannah wouldn't forgive me if I sacrificed even one life for hers.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:42 pm
by concrete_Angel
Yeah, well, I'm sure your intentions are wonderful, but SOME of us don't exactly have the luxury of someone who's there to give you a big hug at night and say they're better off because of you! I'm sure you're absolutely happy with your situation, and if you're not, there's PLENTY of people who would trade places with you in a second. Some of us could go out and die today, and they'd be just a "where's so-and-so?" around here.

Shut the hell up Will, you don't know me like that

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:20 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Concrete, for the last 13 and a half years my own daughter didn't know who I was and I couldn't tell her who she really was.

For the past 10 years I've leived alone, sometimes on the streets, sometimes ininstitutions, only recently with a stable roof over my head.

I tried to drown myself at the bootm of the bottle more than a few times during those dark years.

So I'm not trying to rub anybody's nose in having happiness with Hannah in my life. I'm not trying to say that life doesn't rip our guts out sometimes.

I'm just happy, for once.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:49 pm
by concrete_Angel
Hey, Ron, forget my last post. I'm so sorry. I've been really depressed lately, and I've just been lashing out at the wrong people. Will made me calm down and (after a long lecture about my attitude lately) realise how stupid I'm being. No one's life is perfect, and I'm really glad you and Hannah are happy. I'm just jealous that so many people around here have kids, or parents, that are totally loving of them. That's all I really want.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:54 pm
by KonThaak
Hey, Angel, I can't speak for Ron, but for myself (since I have a kid), don't worry about it... I kinda thought you sounded more jealous in those posts than truly angry, but when one is upset, the last thing they generally wanna hear is "You're just jealous!" from someone who could easily be the target of their ire. ^^;

So I kept my mouth shut.

I hope you get what you want someday, and find the happiness you seek... If there's anything I can do to help you towards that end, please don't hesitate to ask!

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:15 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Concrete . . . I had to walk many, many dark paths before I got my ray of sunshine.

Take my example as a reason for you to have hope.

As for the apology, thanks. I've been down the lonely paths enough to know what it can be like seeing a happy family and feeling it twist inside.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:07 pm
by concrete_Angel
Thank you both. I guess sometimes I just don't want to be alone. I mean, it's like I was in a coma, and when I woke up, everyone and everything I knew was completely gone. Nothing's really felt right since then. I know I'm not the only one around here who's felt lonely, but it's really hard to understand that while you're in the middle of it. I'm glad you guys are so understanding. I'll try to scale back the harshness a lot, BTW.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:22 pm
by Ron Caliburn
If you want to talk about it - I don't like sharing about those times, but most everyone knows the substance of it now anyway.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:21 am
by concrete_Angel
I don't even know what happened. One minute, I'm trying to find a place to crash for the night, I'm cold, I'm hungry, and the last of my funds was gone, then- shoot forward to waking up having Will shouting at me to "keep amongst the living" or some crap like that. Then I learn it's three years later, I'm not in NY anymore, and I'm talking to a ghost. I'd say karma's a bitch, but I don't know what the hell I did.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:10 am
by KonThaak
Angel... I don't know where you are, but if you're in my neck of the woods, I could easily see what I can do to help you. I don't know what your situation is, but you're posting, so I'm hoping you have a place to stay that has an Internet connection. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this means you have a job right now, or some kind of income.

If not... I can help you get set up with both. You don't even have to respond to this on the boards, and I won't say anything either which way after now about it. Just send me a PM either which way, so I know whether or not you're out here somewhere in the Chicagoland area.

If you're not, and you wanna be...I can try and pony up the money in the next week or so to get you a ticket up here. Again, just lemme know privately.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:25 am
by Michael T
Angel if you want I can get you to anywhere in the world you would like, and if interested I can help with employment as well. Any of the above and more is avalible if you need, we can work out any repayment you feel you owe for my help later.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:42 am
by concrete_Angel
Thanks, guys

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:00 pm
by KonThaak
The first part of this story can be found here...

Gabriel laughed...for the first time since he'd been a part of my, in my head, in my subconscious...

He sounded human...as of someone who had been keeping too much stuff pent up and had finally heard some good news...and that fact alone made my blood freeze.

He noticed my reaction, and smirked. "I failed to help Pendragon with the problem for which I was hired, so I refused to accept payment... Expect him to try and slip you something to give to me."

"Gabriel... What...what happened...?"

"After those exploits, I tried just simply hunting for a while..."

"You're...you..."

"I found a few monsters, but not too many... They were fairly easy prey..."

"..."

"I've always been partial to the Moody Blues... Even more than Pink Floyd." His smirk had grown as he watched me. I recognized it. It's the same smirk that involuntarily crawls onto my face when I'm keeping a secret from Lex. Now I knew why she hated it.

"Gabriel...?"

"By the way, you're going to do something very stupid this weekend... Your little necro-magics won't yield the results you were hoping." Now I know he was right, but I didn't, at the time...

"I have to try, anyway... Gabriel, what've you done...?"

"I've just told you." He was using my own tactics against me, the same ones I use when I'm teasing Lex over one thing or another...

"You...you have a soul...?"

He burst out laughing. "'Bout damned time you noticed! You'll never guess how long I've had it, either... I no longer need the piece of soul embedded in yours. You're free, now, as free from obligations as I am."

I was leery. Those of you who know him probably can guess why.

"So, how was being dead?"

After that, we just talked for several hours... He doesn't know what he's going to do, at this point, but he's thinking of going after Hit Squirrel and Dym, for entirely different reasons...

I get the feeling there's more he isn't telling me... I'm happy for him, but...I dunno. Maybe I'm prejudiced because I didn't like him much from the get-go, and now I have less reason to trust him...but...I dunno...

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:43 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
What about Hit Squirrel?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:52 pm
by Shadowstalker
Does Gabe have a lead on her?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:24 pm
by KonThaak
Not exactly, but he was thinking of looking for her...

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:28 pm
by GhostSpider
So the echo is no longer an echo.

Trust it no longer, for it no longer has any reason to remain loyal to you.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:26 pm
by KonThaak
No shit, really?

I've got a bad feeling about this...

Well...that may be saying a bit too much.

I've got a weird feeling about this... Not necessarily bad, but most assuredly not good...

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:58 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I never trusted it to begin with . . . I trusted Josh, still do.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:09 am
by Logos
I say we give him a chance before we shoot him. Personally, I don't distrust him, but that's not to say that I'd entirely turn my back on him either. He really helped me out when I was having trouble with J. Dork, and even if he did have his reasons for it, I appreciate what he did.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:15 am
by GhostSpider
My dealings with Gabe were limited, so I will wait until he reveals his hand.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:15 am
by Ron Caliburn
I appreciate some things he's done . . . still doesn't get me to trust him.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:21 am
by Bert_the_Turtle
I neither Trust nor Distrust him right now.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:37 am
by Natasha
Bert_the_Turtle wrote:I neither Trust nor Distrust him right now.

But you have a tendency. True neutral doesn't exist you know hehe.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:23 am
by Ron Caliburn
Hoepfully he takes the smarter of the tendancies.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:41 pm
by Bert_the_Turtle
I'm approaching it with my usual level of paranoia.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:34 pm
by Natasha
Bert_the_Turtle wrote:I'm approaching it with my usual level of paranoia.
:shock: good thing Katya's busy, she would growl at you hehe.