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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:30 pm
by concrete_Angel
And Kolya's trying to claim that I think you all want to just kill everyone, and damn the facts, which ISN'T what I'm saying.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:54 am
by Kolya
concrete_Angel wrote:And Kolya's trying to claim that I think you all want to just kill everyone, and damn the facts, which ISN'T what I'm saying.
When did I try to claim that you think that?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:58 pm
by Ethan Skinner
Easy guys. This is a discussion forum, not a fencing competition. You don't earn points by taking each others words out of context.

So they have this every year. Can we get someone there an RSVP for next year? Or maybe someone sensitive to the psychic realm over there and read it?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:13 pm
by Kolya
I do not like it when there is confusion around me.
Or when people put words in my mouth.
If angel bothers to reply, I will clear up her confusion in Private Messages.

To answer your questions, I can't really offer any help in this situation.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:00 pm
by concrete_Angel
Kol: You're just adding SO much to the thread. Anything else I'm no longer going to argue about.

I still say whoever this person is is probably just performing a memorial to honor his memory, and would have most likely made some type of action beyond that if he was doing anything unseemly. But if you want to just meet him for curiosity's sake, join the rest of the free world.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:29 am
by Kolya
I don't want to meet him. I want to know what's going on.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:49 am
by Ron Caliburn
I think finding out what is going on would eventually require meeting him.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:16 am
by Kolya
I agree. But there's a lot more required than a handshake and Starbucks. I want to know things before meeting.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:52 pm
by Natasha
I think what Kolya means is that it not as simple as ringing the guy's doorbell and asking him to explain himself. We deal with mages a lot; if this guy is doing something sinister, you have to investigate him before you approach him. At the very least.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:47 pm
by concrete_Angel
I doubt that anyone thinks things are ever that simple. But to be able to evade investigation this long means that he's just that good. Seriously, with as long as this has been going on, the world might have ended about five times by now. That's why I don't think it's really as bad as everyone's trying to make it sound. Besides, isn't everyone around here fully aware of "honoring the dead"?

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:06 pm
by Kolya
No one is trying to make it something it isn't.
That'd require knowing what it is in the first place.

And this type of stuff has been going on for thousands of years. It's a wonder the world hasn't come to a flaming end yet.

I am fully aware of what honouring the dead means, yes.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:00 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Could be he isn't trying to end the world so much as hold the door open for the one who will when the time comes.


We won't know if we don't investigate.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:19 pm
by Kolya
That's the standard MO of many evil mages.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:52 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Most mages do long term things.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:21 pm
by Kolya
Specifically holding open doors.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:50 am
by concrete_Angel
You mean he hasn't been moved enough for your tastes?

I sincerely hope not . . .

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:31 pm
by Eilonwy Solstice
Heather Dawes wrote:I'm so waiting for the next news article about 'somebody' going over to the grave to dig the man up.

I sincerely hope that doesn’t happen. While I wish you the best of luck finding stories . . . I pray Mr. Poe’s body can remain where it is.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:24 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I think that all of us here agree that dead bodies should stay where they are buried.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:26 pm
by Michael T
Most definatly, though moving one to protect it from grave robbers or the dreaded N-mancer is perfectly acceptable.

Michael T.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:35 pm
by Kolya
Mind their spirits they may have left behind.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:17 pm
by concrete_Angel
Michael T wrote:Most definatly, though moving one to protect it from grave robbers or the dreaded N-mancer is perfectly acceptable.

Michael T.


You think that's why he's been moved? in that case, maybe the visitor is just trying to protect his body from being used. That might explain so much.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:20 am
by Kolya
Or it is moving itself.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:42 pm
by Ron Caliburn
So is this guy perhaps soem sort of guardian then? We need to know that as much as the contrary . . . maybe there si a plot to do something with Poe's corpse that needs to be stopped.

A . . . guardian? An ally to our cause?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:03 am
by Eilonwy Solstice
Ron Caliburn wrote:So is this guy perhaps soem sort of guardian then? We need to know that as much as the contrary . . . maybe there si a plot to do something with Poe's corpse that needs to be stopped.

A . . . guardian? As in, not simply an admirer, but someone who actually defends the gravesite from a danger? Perhaps this person needs help? If this is a . . . “family tradition” to keep a reoccurring danger at bay, they may need help . . . .

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:02 pm
by Ron Caliburn
The fact of the matter is we don't know, and this grave's resident has a reputation for the macabre that makes not knowing troublesome.

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:48 pm
by concrete_Angel
There you go making assumptions based on the guy's writings again. :lol:

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:54 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I'm more interesed in what assumptions other people who might be trying to conduct a graveside ritual are making about him based on his writings.

I'm also worried that they may be correct.

Re: A . . . guardian? An ally to our cause?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:28 pm
by Kolya
Eilonwy Solstice wrote:
Ron Caliburn wrote:So is this guy perhaps soem sort of guardian then? We need to know that as much as the contrary . . . maybe there si a plot to do something with Poe's corpse that needs to be stopped.

A . . . guardian? As in, not simply an admirer, but someone who actually defends the gravesite from a danger? Perhaps this person needs help? If this is a . . . “family tradition” to keep a reoccurring danger at bay, they may need help . . . .
Wait til Katja catches wind of this...

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:29 pm
by Kolya
concrete_Angel wrote:There you go making assumptions based on the guy's writings again. :lol:
What assumptoin is that?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:03 pm
by Kei Nakamura
As possibility, perhaps the man just pays his respects each year and checks to make sure the grave is not vandalized?

Although with the collective unconcious having had been influenced so heavily by Poe's works, those particular remains could be put to use in ways that I will not elucidate here, but think of the power purported to be in the relics that contain the remains of those the church calls "saints", and remember how much of magic relies on the belief.