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Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:06 pm
by Clarity
GhostSpider wrote:Of myself?

Always.

_____Ethan says we are the sum total of our fears. But I don’t know what that means.
_____Sometimes I’m scared of myself, too.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:19 pm
by Shadowstalker
Ghost? Ratchet things down. You are creating problems for yourself, and alienating people who have defended you, and call you friend.

Damnit first Kalle, and now Kolya? Please people can we start trying to act a little more civil?

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:50 pm
by Shang Li
Mr. GhostSpider, being belligerent is not helpful to your cause. I understand fully the concerns of the more zealous members, I do infact, share those same concerns. It is simply that I have seen no evidence that you pose an immenent threat to humanity at large, and in my eyes, that entitles you to the same privledges and rights of being as any other here.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:31 pm
by skeptic
Shadowstalker wrote:Ghost? Ratchet things down. You are creating problems for yourself, and alienating people who have defended you, and call you friend.

Damnit first Kalle, and now Kolya? Please people can we start trying to act a little more civil?
We need to get our ducks in a row.
I think we need to have a good look into GhostSpider's head.
He's demonstrating symptoms of serious mental illness.
Beating the shit out of your father to prove a point?
Yea, GhostSpider's got some real serious issues.
Let's set him down and have a look.
Lest we lose more of the good guys...

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:34 pm
by skeptic
Clarity Grace wrote:
GhostSpider wrote:Of myself?

Always.

_____Ethan says we are the sum total of our fears. But I don’t know what that means.
_____Sometimes I’m scared of myself, too.
We are the sum total of much more than our fears.

Except when we are the sum total of our fears.
That's when psychological care is undeniably required.
That means our fears have come to define our existence.
And that's abnormal.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:50 pm
by GhostSpider
As this is likely to be my final post for some time, I'd like to make an apology for acting like a complete ass. My childish behavior has done nothing for me or for the stability of this forum.

That having been said, I need to get away from these unceasing battles for a time, and clear my head. I need to examine what I've become.

I have every intention of returning, but I ask that no one seek me out during this time. I'm simply not...stable enough to be of any great help.

See ya later folks.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:00 pm
by skeptic
I hope you're not running away from the issues that bother you and your mind.
PM me if you need anything; I specialize in cases such as yours.
It's not going to hurt anybody to check in time to time letting us know your progress.

And I hope we have the eyes some have claimed we have.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:07 pm
by Sophoroto
GhostSpider wrote:As this is likely to be my final post for some time, I'd like to make an apology for acting like a complete ass. My childish behavior has done nothing for me or for the stability of this forum.

That having been said, I need to get away from these unceasing battles for a time, and clear my head. I need to examine what I've become.

I have every intention of returning, but I ask that no one seek me out during this time. I'm simply not...stable enough to be of any great help.

See ya later folks.


Mr. GhostSpider if you need anything you can come by the estate and I am sure Mr. Greydawn could help you he is pretty good at figuring things out. Besides it is peaceful there and you could get the rest that you need.

There are two guest houses so you could be alone and not have to feel what anyone else is feeling. And if you have to have emotions to feed off of I am sure we could help in that area also since from what I understand it doesn't hurt the people you feed off of most of the staff would be willing and they are almost always in a good mood.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:24 pm
by Ron Caliburn
Personal Honesty - it's a good start.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:42 pm
by skeptic
Just had to burn two quality members first.
And there's still nothing proving he's not going underground to avoid scrutiny.
I don't see any good in this.
Yet.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:06 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I didn't say that the stuation was without negatives.

But personal honesty is a good start towards positive territory.


That's why they say they are alcoholics at the meetings.

Hi, Skeptic. Maybe if you looked a little harder?

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:09 pm
by Clarity
_____Hi, Skeptic. Maybe if you looked a little harder, you would see some good?

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:31 pm
by skeptic
Clarity, I've been looking all my life.
I want there to be good.
But what I want doesn't decide what is real.
Besides, I offered my services to him; I don't think it's all bad.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:33 pm
by skeptic
Ron Caliburn wrote:I didn't say that the stuation was without negatives.

But personal honesty is a good start towards positive territory.


That's why they say they are alcoholics at the meetings.
True enough.
But is he being honest?
Here's how it often happens.
I'm sorry, let me wonder off somewhere, don't follow me (so I can come back and stab you in the back).
That's why I hope we're able to keep an eye on him.
That's why I asked the questions I asked.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:38 pm
by Ron Caliburn
I'm not unaware of that possibility and am doing my best to be ready for it.

But again, the personal honesty about being a jerk lately is ususally a step in the right direction.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:40 pm
by skeptic
Well I've got my fingers crossed.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:43 pm
by Ron Caliburn
A surprising act of faith.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:47 pm
by skeptic
I've said my piece.
Not much else for me to do but hope for the best.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:10 am
by KonThaak
Konrad, when you get back, feel free to drop me a line. I was afraid you were damning yourself with the story of beating the bully up with the hammer...but then I saw what you said after that. I've been defending you, and I'll continue to do so. I know you can't give us answers you don't have, and I have faith you'll find some answers while you're soul-searching. I have faith that when you come back, you'll tell us all you can.

Shadow, by what Kolya just said, it may not be GhostSpider that ran either Kolya or Kalle off. As of right now, I accept full responsibility for that... I tried to keep the peace on the boards, as much as I could. I tried to stop the fighting on all sides. Kolya may not have been offended by this, but both he and Kalle almost certainly saw this as a sign that we didn't care that there are monsters in our midst. This couldn't be further from the truth, but I screwed up. I made a point of cutting off their lines of accusation. I tried to keep the peace, and I succeeded by failing.

For what it's worth, Lex is a minor emotional vampire, herself. She can walk into a room full of depressed people, and she'll be cheerful and perky when she walks in, but when she leaves, everyone else will have cheered up, and she'll feel practically suicidal. The reverse has happened on at least one occasion as well. She doesn't need to do it to survive, or even to maintain her emotional stability--in point of fact, it usually wrecks any stability she has...but she does it without control.

Kolya, Kalle, if you read this, I wish you both would come back...and I'm sorry.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:43 am
by skeptic
I can't speak for either kalle or Kolya of course but from what's been publicly said
and from what you've said they've said in private to you, then you're the only one
blaming you.

Re: GhostSpider and why Katja left thread.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:54 am
by Natasha
KonThaak wrote:Shadow, by what Kolya just said, it may not be GhostSpider that ran either Kolya or Kalle off. As of right now, I accept full responsibility for that...
You are not responsible for their decisions.

You can’t hold yourself responsible, Josh . . .

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:49 pm
by Eilonwy Solstice
I agree with Natasha, Josh. You cannot hold yourself responsible for their choices. Konrad made a choice, a choice that will be difficult even if he didn’t have Karlash to bear.